Anyone have experiance with Clarion dpx 11500?
05-03-2007, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by t money
you don't need an new altenator, just get a yellow top and put it in your trunk. I have a yellow top up front and a yellow top in my trunk running over 1500 to subs and 400 to mids and highs and i get no dimming with a 80 amp altenator.Ho alts are overrated and only needed if you run 3000+ to subs from my experience
05-04-2007, 10:42 AM
#12
Originally Posted by Keswick R/T
No offense, but i would upgrade my alt way before i even thought of puting another batt in. another batt is just a bandaid to the actual problem. With a high enough ouput alt and a decent batt, you should have no problems whatsoever. plus the big 3. Think about it. your car has a 100amp alt stock. ok. your stereo pulls 150 amps max, so most likely under normal listening the draw is half that, so 75 amps average(just to throw figures into this). now you have 25amps left before you start to drain your batt "driving" around, but no you don't cause your car is likely using quite a bit more than that to operate all the electronics it has. A second batt is great for listening to your stereo while the car is OFF, but does nothing but put more strain on an already taxed electrical system while running the car with stereo on. you will have more reserve power to start your car when you decide to, but thats about it. Also with an extra batt you must give yourself more no stereo time to charge both batts before you shut it off.(the extra load i spoke of.)
i suggest you do more research, you're wasting your money on a ho altenator. HO alts don't always put out more amps during idle. I guess you'll learn when you buy it and still get dimming, you'll wonder why. It's your money and your system so you can do what you want, i was just trying to save you money and the hasstle.It's unfortunate that you actually beleive what you wrote. However since what your saying makes so much sense, can you please tell me how i get no dimming with only a 80 amp alt(92 honda accord) drawing more current than a clarion 11500 from my kicker zx1500.1 and also have a mtx 2300xw that puts out around 400 watts to my components. So lets see, thats 1700+ from my kicker zx1500.1 and 400+ from my mtx 2300xw. I guess you're correct, i must be breaking all kinds of electrical laws.lol. Like i said, i have a 80 amp alt with one extra battery, no probs with the alt and it has helped tremendously when the car is running, not off. Anyways enjoy your bumping.Please do more research because the extra battery helps out more than just when the car is off. What do i really know anyways only been in and around car audio since 1986
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05-04-2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by t money
i suggest you do more research, you're wasting your money on a ho altenator. HO alts don't always put out more amps during idle. I guess you'll learn when you buy it and still get dimming, you'll wonder why. It's your money and your system so you can do what you want, i was just trying to save you money and the hasstle.It's unfortunate that you actually beleive what you wrote. However since what your saying makes so much sense, can you please tell me how i get no dimming with only a 80 amp alt(92 honda accord) drawing more current than a clarion 11500 from my kicker zx1500.1 and also have a mtx 2300xw that puts out around 400 watts to my components. So lets see, thats 1700+ from my kicker zx1500.1 and 400+ from my mtx 2300xw. I guess you're correct, i must be breaking all kinds of electrical laws.lol. Like i said, i have a 80 amp alt with one extra battery, no probs with the alt and it has helped tremendously when the car is running, not off. Anyways enjoy your bumping.Please do more research because the extra battery helps out more than just when the car is off. What do i really know anyways only been in and around car audio since 1986
other than that, i will make no comment. you already made yourself look like a fool. good day.
05-05-2007, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Keswick R/T
who said anything about idle? besides that, think about it. if you draw more power than your alt is making, you are drawing power out of the batt(s). where else is this power coming from?
other than that, i will make no comment. you already made yourself look like a fool. good day.
other than that, i will make no comment. you already made yourself look like a fool. good day.
yeah, i'm the fool lololol.I mentioned idle because thats why most people get a HO alt so they don't get dimming at idle, since your rpms go up while driving and you get more amps a HO alt helps out more while idling, but of course you knew that. Besides your just a kid, what do you know.You are actually very amusing. I like how you said a battery is a band aid solution.lololol. Little kids have lots to learn but like i said its your money and i really don't care if you waste it, i know i didnt waste mine and my system sounds great.Claron amp needing a HO alt, thats the funniest thing i heard in a while. You just so smart with your reasoning.You truly are an idiot. All i did was try to give you good advice and you call me a fool, you are just a punk. Like i said before, kids these days
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05-05-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by t money
yeah, i'm the fool lololol.I mentioned idle because thats why most people get a HO alt so they don't get dimming at idle, since your rpms go up while driving and you get more amps a HO alt helps out more while idling, but of course you knew that. Besides your just a kid, what do you know.You are actually very amusing. I like how you said a battery is a band aid solution.lololol. Little kids have lots to learn but like i said its your money and i really don't care if you waste it, i know i didnt waste mine and my system sounds great.Claron amp needing a HO alt, thats the funniest thing i heard in a while. You just so smart with your reasoning.You truly are an idiot. All i did was try to give you good advice and you call me a fool, you are just a punk. Like i said before, kids these days
i am most likely older than you considering your childish comments. I am 27 btw.but anyways like i said, you made yourself look like a fool saying that what i said is wrong, when its proven to be right. a second batt is a bandiad solution to dimming and voltage drops and such. it puts more strain on your electrical system, end of story. there is no way around that. Like i said, it helps when you are not driving, more power to re-start your car, but then it will take your alt longer to charge both batts. more power on tap from the batts means no dimming, unless you run your batts down while driving, because your alt can not keep up with the power demand.
where is the flaw in that?
a h/o alt is the solution. one that will supply enough power to run your stereo as well as your car, and maintain your batt's charge.
I am just trying to stop you from ing false info. people may believe you. thats not good. Once again i am not saying a second batt is not a good thing. its great for when listening to the stereo with the car off, as well as when driving as long as you give your alt enough time to fully re-charge your batts(stereo-down time) before you turn your vehicle off.
that is the facts.
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05-05-2007, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Keswick R/T
its funny that you think i am a kid. i am most likely older than you considering your childish comments. I am 27 btw.
but anyways like i said, you made yourself look like a fool saying that what i said is wrong, when its proven to be right. a second batt is a bandiad solution to dimming and voltage drops and such. it puts more strain on your electrical system, end of story. there is no way around that. Like i said, it helps when you are not driving, more power to re-start your car, but then it will take your alt longer to charge both batts. more power on tap from the batts means no dimming, unless you run your batts down while driving, because your alt can not keep up with the power demand.
where is the flaw in that?
a h/o alt is the solution. one that will supply enough power to run your stereo as well as your car, and maintain your batt's charge.
I am just trying to stop you from ing false info. people may believe you. thats not good. Once again i am not saying a second batt is not a good thing. its great for when listening to the stereo with the car off, as well as when driving as long as you give your alt enough time to fully re-charge your batts(stereo-down time) before you turn your vehicle off.
that is the facts.
/thread.
i am most likely older than you considering your childish comments. I am 27 btw.but anyways like i said, you made yourself look like a fool saying that what i said is wrong, when its proven to be right. a second batt is a bandiad solution to dimming and voltage drops and such. it puts more strain on your electrical system, end of story. there is no way around that. Like i said, it helps when you are not driving, more power to re-start your car, but then it will take your alt longer to charge both batts. more power on tap from the batts means no dimming, unless you run your batts down while driving, because your alt can not keep up with the power demand.
where is the flaw in that?
a h/o alt is the solution. one that will supply enough power to run your stereo as well as your car, and maintain your batt's charge.
I am just trying to stop you from ing false info. people may believe you. thats not good. Once again i am not saying a second batt is not a good thing. its great for when listening to the stereo with the car off, as well as when driving as long as you give your alt enough time to fully re-charge your batts(stereo-down time) before you turn your vehicle off.
that is the facts.
/thread.
i'm 34. Now do more research. What you call a bandaid solution is cheaper and more effective depending on how much wattage your running.I know guys with as much and more power than me running dual batts on a stuck alt for years with no problems, i would hardly call years a bandaid solution. So what you want and i'll do what i want and we'll both be happy.
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05-05-2007, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by t money
i'm 34. Now do more research. What you call a bandaid solution is cheaper and more effective depending on how much wattage your running.I know guys with as much and more power than me running dual batts on a stuck alt for years with no problems, i would hardly call years a bandaid solution. So what you want and i'll do what i want and we'll both be happy.
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you should do your research and find out how much time you actually spend driving around listening to music vs sitting still and letting your car idle while listning to music...
Keswick R/T makes a stronger point that a alt is a better upgrade if you drive around more then sit and let the car pump. your solution is better if you dont drive around,then a new battery just for the trunk is the way to go...
each solution has its pros and cons and you should figure out which is actually the best for your aplication.
Last edited by zinger002; 05-05-2007 at 07:41 PM.
05-05-2007, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zinger002
you should do your research and find out how much time you actually spend driving around listening to music vs sitting still and letting your car idle while listning to music...
Keswick R/T makes a stronger point that a alt is a better upgrade if you drive around more then sit and let the car pump. your solution is better if you dont drive around,then a new battery just for the trunk is the way to go...
each solution has its pros and cons and you should figure out which is actually the best for your aplication.
Keswick R/T makes a stronger point that a alt is a better upgrade if you drive around more then sit and let the car pump. your solution is better if you dont drive around,then a new battery just for the trunk is the way to go...
each solution has its pros and cons and you should figure out which is actually the best for your aplication.
05-06-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by zinger002
you should do your research and find out how much time you actually spend driving around listening to music vs sitting still and letting your car idle while listning to music...
Keswick R/T makes a stronger point that a alt is a better upgrade if you drive around more then sit and let the car pump. your solution is better if you dont drive around,then a new battery just for the trunk is the way to go...
each solution has its pros and cons and you should figure out which is actually the best for your aplication.
Keswick R/T makes a stronger point that a alt is a better upgrade if you drive around more then sit and let the car pump. your solution is better if you dont drive around,then a new battery just for the trunk is the way to go...
each solution has its pros and cons and you should figure out which is actually the best for your aplication.
i hear you, i've just seen numorous people who upgrade their alt and still get dimming(which is why they upgrade their alt to stop) and n;umorous guys whho run multiple batts and have no issues.If it wre more power i would agree about a HO alt but with 1500rms its definately not needed.
p.s i paid $130.00 for my second yellow top compared to a HO alt thats $300.00 plus and have no dimming idling or driving.I even have a friend running a kicker zx1500.1 at 1 ohm pulling a lot of current with two batts in the back on a stock alt, he paid $75.00 for each of his batts
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