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t/a is a bandaid depending on the person, the system, the vehicle that its installed in and the real goal of the sytem overall, but an eq is needed to fix freq. response issues that can happen regardless of how much planning etc that you do, it shouldnt be used to fix poor design/placement issues but to fine tune it, and depending on the person an eq can be very usefull in making a system sound the way a particular person wants regardless of what really sounds good
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Originally posted by defro13:
t/a is a bandaid depending on the person, the system, the vehicle that its installed in and the real goal of the sytem overall, but an eq is needed to fix freq. response issues that can happen regardless of how much planning etc that you do, it shouldnt be used to fix poor design/placement issues but to fine tune it, and depending on the person an eq can be very usefull in making a system sound the way a particular person wants regardless of what really sounds good
t/a is a bandaid depending on the person, the system, the vehicle that its installed in and the real goal of the sytem overall, but an eq is needed to fix freq. response issues that can happen regardless of how much planning etc that you do, it shouldnt be used to fix poor design/placement issues but to fine tune it, and depending on the person an eq can be very usefull in making a system sound the way a particular person wants regardless of what really sounds good
There are no EQ's or TA in a live unamplified music session.............just the naturallity of the instruments and the end result.................true music.........
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Something Richard Clark told me once was..............if you can default your processing and there is a noticible difference..................you've done something wrong...................fix your sound and your install..........then tweak it with the processing.............
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you respond like im disagreeing with you tim. eq'ing can be used to make something sound the way a customer wants, even if i dont like it, i will do it, because that is what a customer may want, some people just dont care how angus young wanted highway to hell to sound like, they want it the way they want it, very few people in car audio really care if it sounds the way the producer wanted it, you may be one of the few that does, i know i am, sometimes overprocessing is what it takes to get it to sound right to an individual. i did a stereo for a guy, trans am gte(should have been the first clue) said he wanted the system to sound loud and clear like when he sits 10 feet away from his home speakers, i thought this was going to be the ideal guy, so i proceed to put 2 10" woofers in the hatch, avi 6.5" components in the doors, a sh!tload of power, no t/a no eeq which i could have used because the alpine cd palyer had it, customer listened to it and didnt like it, so i fire a set of 6x9's in the rear dial in 1k and 8k a bit, a bit of t/a get the customer back sit him in there nut it and the guy loved it, i took a pefectly good sounding stereo, and used processing and such to make it sound the way the customer wanted it(which was worse imo)he liked it so much he tipped us 500$ on a 5500$ bill. that is a great exapmle of how overmanipulating the sound to the point of it sounding bad to me, made it perfect for him, i still shake my head when i think about what i did, you would think that all my years of doing t'a's and camaros in surrey, i would have known better, btw the first tgrack the guy played when he got in way whitesnake's "still of the night", i couldnt wipe the grin off my facce for an hour. btw, when i can fit the band on my dash, i'll stop using processors 
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I have heard that processed sound and I have referred to it as 'dirty' in the past. I think that is my way of saying obscuring detail, raising the noise floor, and robbing the music of immediacy and dynamics. Most every item in the audio chain does this to a degree (perfection has not been achieved) so the less crap the better IMO. I do not want to say it cant or wont sound good, or improve your system, but every fix has a price. Adams thread on the DQX was a great thread and worthy of a reread.
Well said Timmie B
I would not get my knickers in too much of a wad over the AQ purchase, it is a fine product as is the Alpine 700 unit. One forces its way into your dash and the other is ugly and needs to be hidden. Both are kick butt devices most will envy.
Well said Timmie B
I would not get my knickers in too much of a wad over the AQ purchase, it is a fine product as is the Alpine 700 unit. One forces its way into your dash and the other is ugly and needs to be hidden. Both are kick butt devices most will envy.
Alpine 701's are a tad noisey. I've heard 2 vehicles now that use them, while they are pretty impressive processors, they have that small noise issue....The Audiocontrol units, however, are dead silent. The alpine peice gives you a bit more to work with though.
