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emerica_55 02-13-2007 03:23 PM

Best bet for cheap bass
 
I want to add a little more low end to my system. I have a Pioneer 3900 head unit and Type S speakers all the way around in my 99 Grand Am. A buddy of mine has a 200W RMS Rockford Fosgate sub that puts out all the bass I would need, so I am trying to find something with equal power but less than the 500 he spent after taxes. I DO NOT want to buy anything used or over the internet.

So far I have found:

Canadian Tire
and
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...0084256&catid=

The MTX setup would be 350 after taxes and the Basslink would also be 350 after taxes and a wiring kit.

Which of these setups do you guys prefer, and what else can you suggest in the same price range.

hott-nix 02-13-2007 04:50 PM

it's too bad you wont buy over the internet... you can get great products from mach5 audio for very cheap


Originally Posted by emerica_55
I want to add a little more low end to my system. I have a Pioneer 3900 head unit and Type S speakers all the way around in my 99 Grand Am. A buddy of mine has a 200W RMS Rockford Fosgate sub that puts out all the bass I would need, so I am trying to find something with equal power but less than the 500 he spent after taxes. I DO NOT want to buy anything used or over the internet.

So far I have found:

Canadian Tire
and
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...0084256&catid=

The MTX setup would be 350 after taxes and the Basslink would also be 350 after taxes and a wiring kit.

Which of these setups do you guys prefer, and what else can you suggest in the same price range.


Creamedweasel 02-13-2007 06:41 PM

I agree with Hott, Mach 5 is based out of here in Winnipeg. The guy is hella nice and even let me into his beeeeautiful house to talk about his subs. You won't be disappointed with them, and they are crazy cheap.

Brad-S.A. 02-13-2007 06:46 PM

There is lots of nice deals via the net. ;) But if those are your two options the Infinty Basslink is the one I would choose.

DesolataX 02-14-2007 12:54 AM

Buying over the internet is the best way if you want to beat him.
My friend has spent over $2000 on his system, bought all locally, and my current $600 setup kicks the crap out of his, but he has a nicer deck. Can't wait for my Pioneer DEH-P8600MP to arrive, then mine is way better, for less than half.

Online is the only way to go.

that_s10_dude 02-17-2007 03:40 PM

Thanks for not buying on EBAY, it destroys us lil guys

Keswick R/T 02-17-2007 09:31 PM

i agree with above, mach 5 is the way to get loud, sound good for cheap.
a guy at the show on the 11th, hit 146.3 with 2 $60 mj 18" subs. i have their maw 15" sub, and i only have 125-150rms going to it, and it get fairly loud. my guess, in and around 130db, after hearing what i heard at the show and comparing to what i heard. cant wait to get an amp on it that can push it the way it wants to be.:smokin:

Fixxer 02-18-2007 12:18 AM

I wouldn't buy any of that garbage. Find a Digital Designs dealer that is near you and get a little 8" 1508 or 1008a sent to you if you don't have one by you. This is one on about 200w in a T-line ported enclosure.
Digital Designs 1008a video

-m- 02-18-2007 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by Fixxer
I wouldn't buy any of that garbage.


Are you talking about the Mach5 equipment?

emerica_55 02-18-2007 02:13 PM

Well that Mach 5 stuff does look pretty good. The shipping is amazing cheap to, as I live in Saskatoon. I'll ignore what Fixxer said because he called something garbage that everyone else called great, so he is obviously involved with the company that sells the sub he was trying to get me to buy.

If I was to buy from Mach 5 I would go with the MAW-10. But where can I find a amp to power that thing that I can afford. It would be 65 for the sub plus 70 for a good box. So unless I can find am amp for 160 bucks, that BassLink would be a better deal. I have been talking to a couple guys on this forum who have used stuff for sale, but I am not going to buy anything from them. A buddy of mine got f*cked over in a used private sale over the net. So if I do buy anything over the net, it will be something new and from a site that doesn't want you to pay with paypal.

So does anyone have any suggestions for a cheap amp then?

Brad-S.A. 02-18-2007 02:34 PM

Yes there is lots of suugestions at around $160 new. Pm me if you around looking for one.

Fixxer 02-18-2007 04:42 PM

The stuff from the futureshop, CND Tire... And no, I'm not affiliated with Digital Designs. I don't need to sell their equipment. It sells itself just fine.


Originally Posted by -m-
Are you talking about the Mach5 equipment?


jasondh 02-18-2007 06:50 PM

Bestbuy has the RF P325.1 on for $200. I know its over your budget, but its only $40.

smith 02-18-2007 08:03 PM

Ive saved hundreds of dollars buying my stuff over the net. All from people on this site.

Look in the for sale section, you dont need to buy over the net, you can do so in person.

THAD 02-18-2007 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by emerica_55
Well that Mach 5 stuff does look pretty good. The shipping is amazing cheap to, as I live in Saskatoon. I'll ignore what Fixxer said because he called something garbage that everyone else called great, so he is obviously involved with the company that sells the sub he was trying to get me to buy.

If I was to buy from Mach 5 I would go with the MAW-10. But where can I find a amp to power that thing that I can afford. It would be 65 for the sub plus 70 for a good box. So unless I can find am amp for 160 bucks, that BassLink would be a better deal.

So does anyone have any suggestions for a cheap amp then?

IMO I'd do the following...

Order the Mach5 MAW-12(support Canadian, I just did) for $70. Mark the owner is an awesome guy. Send him a cheque if you don't want to do paypal.

Buy a box locally for it, what you do save on the sub you can spend on the box or the amp, and still be happy with the sound that this sub produces. Maybe $100 for a good sealed 12" box on sale somewhere.

Lastly, purchase an 350-400rms amp from "Smartass". If he'll take payment by cheque or money order then your flying. He's got great amps for around $100+ that'll give you enough to power that sub and maybe your front's as well. If you need the wirin,g he's the man on that count as well.

You'll be taken careof by two really great guy's who stand by their products and will be there for you through and through. You won't be disappointed.

hott-nix 02-18-2007 09:05 PM

also, if you have the tools, or access to them, you can build a box yourself. the supplies would be less than $50 and it would only take a few hours of your time to build

emerica_55 02-19-2007 12:35 AM

Well for the box I will just buy one. Find one on sale for 100 bucks?, All local car audio places sell brand name boxes for about 60 for 10's and 70 for 12's. I do have everything needed to build any kind of box, I just have no need to.

As for buying an amp from Smartass, everything he has under 195 bucks either doesn't put out enough power (160W @ 4OHMS), is a demo model (aka used) or is made by Ultimate (I know a couple people who had horrible experiences with their products). The best thing he has is a JBL for 195 that puts out 300W @ 4OHMS. Good amp, its just that it puts me over my budget.

I have heard a couple 200W RMS subs and they put out all the bass I need. I don't want to go over my budget to buy power and bass that I don't need. So far, the BassLink looks like my best bet. If I could find a sub and amp putting out over 200W over the net that is within my budget, then of course I will buy it. It just looks like that isn't possible.

As for meeting someone in person to buy something used instead of sight unseen over the net. I live in the prairies, so the person would have to be in Saskatoon because the cities aren't 20 minutes apart like southern Ontario.

THAD 02-19-2007 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by emerica_55
I do have everything needed to build any kind of box, I just have no need to.

As for buying an amp from Smartass, The best thing he has is a JBL for 195 that puts out 300W @ 4OHMS. Good amp, its just that it puts me over my budget. I don't want to go over my budget to buy power and bass that I don't need. So far, the BassLink looks like my best bet. If I could find a sub and amp putting out over 200W over the net that is within my budget, then of course I will buy it. It just looks like that isn't possible.

As for meeting someone in person to buy something used instead of sight unseen over the net. I live in the prairies, so the person would have to be in Saskatoon because the cities aren't 20 minutes apart like southern Ontario.

Hey buddy, just trying to help you out like everyone else previously. There is life outside the 20 minute radius of Littletown Saskatchewan, you got to just give it a chance.

Sounds like you already know what you want anyway...

Maybe your best bet is a 8" Visonic amplified base tube at the local discount warehouse. All you need then is a leadwire from your deck to the tube, no mess no fuss and maybe $75 total.

Later....

Goodluck.

liv2ride 02-19-2007 06:58 AM

From the sounds of it.. I think the 8" visonik tube is the way to go.. I heard they can add quite of bit of low end to your music.

mrogowski 02-19-2007 07:10 AM

Sorry to butt in...

If you want a first hand look at the MAW's, head over to the Mach 5 forum and look up the user 'aneonrider'. He lives in Saskatoon and has MAW-10's running in his car. He's a nice guy. I'm sure if you PM him, he'll be happy to discuss things.

Best regards,
Mark

Viperoni 02-19-2007 07:10 AM

Sounds like a MAW15 running off of 150-200 watts RMS would do the job fine for him.
Remember, greater efficiency from the larger cone area.

Brad-S.A. 02-19-2007 10:45 AM

Well that was the amp I was going to suggest. The JBL CS300.1

-m- 02-19-2007 11:39 AM

The difference between 160W and 200W will be imperceptible to you. I say go with the smaller amp and you'll be fine. Don't forget that efficiency comes into play here. Not sure what it is on the MTX sub but if you get a sub with a higher efficiency (or a ported instead of sealed enclosure) you won't need as much power to get it as loud as one with a lower efficiency.

emerica_55 02-19-2007 04:20 PM

First off, are you people in Ontario embarrassed by people like THAD? In Saskatchewan we feel embarrassed when someone here talks so idiotically about other parts of Canada, such as Ontario. Saskatoon is littletown Saskatchewan...did you fail Canadian geography? Anyway its 2 1/2 hours to Regina, 6 to Edmonton, 6 1/2 to Calgary, 5 1/2 to Winnipeg...

Well Smartass made me a great offer on that JBL amp. I am just waiting to find out from him why his site and JBL's official site list contradicting specs about the amp. If that ends up working, I will probably buy a MAW-12 from MACH 5 and go from there.

Ray 02-19-2007 07:06 PM

I find it weird that your looking on the NET.
Yet you won't buy from it.You want us to do your shopping for you?

emerica_55 02-19-2007 09:48 PM

No, I want you to give me advice on what you feel are the best products available. I originally asked what people thought of a couple of options I found at local stores. People started suggesting that I should purchase over the internet. I have realized that there are better deals on the internet, but I am still unsure whether or not I will anything over it. I have already run into a problem with a product that I was thinking of buying, with the seller listing specs that are different than those on the products official site. For now I am just weighing my options.

THAD 02-19-2007 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by emerica_55
First off, are you people in Ontario embarrassed by people like THAD? In Saskatchewan we feel embarrassed when someone here talks so idiotically about other parts of Canada, such as Ontario. Saskatoon is littletown Saskatchewan...did you fail Canadian geography? Anyway its 2 1/2 hours to Regina, 6 to Edmonton, 6 1/2 to Calgary, 5 1/2 to Winnipeg...

Well Smartass made me a great offer on that JBL amp. I am just waiting to find out from him why his site and JBL's official site list contradicting specs about the amp. If that ends up working, I will probably buy a MAW-12 from MACH 5 and go from there.

Hey listen e-America#55 , I wasn't about to retort to your dimunitive tone as mine wasn't in the first place, however, I know that Littletown is Saskatoon in Saskatchewan, and as such referred to it in that manner. Please don't insult my intelligence. My intention wasn't to insult you, but to incite you to see there is a bigger world that you're reaching out to and wants to help, but you're tossing roadblocks along the way.

As I mentioned, IMO, means "in my opinion" specifically, and not the opinion of others, whether they're in Ontario or elsewhere for that matter. It's a quick way to distance yourself from ultimate goal here.

My apologies for going out on a limb as I'm fairly new to the game as well and not a substantial poster if you look at my profile, but have learned by foraging just like most others do. I was only trying to assist you the best I could as IMO you've narrowed down your method of purchasing to a finite corner where most people cannot offer you assistance if they're not familiar to your locale. There are a number of good recommendations offered to you in many of the previous posts from people with fantastic industry experience and reliable backgrounds, I'm just trying to help you with what I've experienced dealing with such people. I think you ought to review them carefully and see if they don't make sense to you. Others who've replied to assist are just as concerned to help you on your way.

Reserve your affable comments to a more appropriate venue, not one that's offering you constructive advice or criticism. This is what a "forum" is all about.

I still wish you the best of luck and hope you harbor no bad feelings, only an open canvas.

TIE

evan 02-20-2007 12:20 AM

emerica_55,

If Smartass doesn't get you all sorted out you should go to Visions on Circle Drive and talk to Sean. Are you on 306motorclub?

Evan.

SUX 2BU 02-20-2007 10:15 AM

I got a pair of Canton 10's I'm trying to sell for $150. Never used. Brand new, still in the box. Beautiful SQ-oriented woofers. If you're looking to add some accurate bass for your system, these would be good. Too bad I didn't see your post earlier. I was just in S'toon from the 14th to the 17th visiting family and scouting out houses. Very nice city that Toon-town is.

Keswick R/T 02-20-2007 12:30 PM

just thought i would post if you do go with mach 5, mark is a great guy, and sends to canada COD. that way you dont pay till it gets to you. i recently spent $1100 us on a coilover set for my car, about 6 months ago that i have yet to recieve. so needless to say i am leary about any internet purchase, but seeing that he is willing to do cod, you know he is not out to rip any one off.:)

-m- 02-20-2007 01:20 PM

I've bought from Mark and eveything showed up in a timely fashion. You should have no worries dealing with him.


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