"best subwoofer location"
03-17-2009, 06:03 PM
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"best subwoofer location"
Hey guys,
I need some feedback. Doing a install on a 2000 ford taurus. The rear seats fold down. I have my phoenix gold 6" mids and tweets in the front doors, And phoenix gold 5" mids and tweets in the rear doors. I have 3 choices on subwoofer location.1) Facing the front with either the rear seats up or down. 2) Facing the rear with the seat up or down, or 3) Facing the front, but having the sub box all the way to the rear of the car, with seats up or down. .......Which will give the highest spl and bass output?
----- The sub is a "infinity 12" 1250 in a 2 c.ft ported box tuned to 32hz.
"infinity 611a"-450 rms@4ohms, 650@2ohms
"tsunami" 2 farad cap
...I know its all trial and error. But i am hoping someone out there has tried different sub locations in a 2000-05 taurus.
.Next install....."css sdx-15" being fed courtesy of a "hifonics" amp pushing 1000-1500 watts rms...Mmmmm Yummy.
I need some feedback. Doing a install on a 2000 ford taurus. The rear seats fold down. I have my phoenix gold 6" mids and tweets in the front doors, And phoenix gold 5" mids and tweets in the rear doors. I have 3 choices on subwoofer location.1) Facing the front with either the rear seats up or down. 2) Facing the rear with the seat up or down, or 3) Facing the front, but having the sub box all the way to the rear of the car, with seats up or down. .......Which will give the highest spl and bass output?
----- The sub is a "infinity 12" 1250 in a 2 c.ft ported box tuned to 32hz.
"infinity 611a"-450 rms@4ohms, 650@2ohms
"tsunami" 2 farad cap
...I know its all trial and error. But i am hoping someone out there has tried different sub locations in a 2000-05 taurus.
.Next install....."css sdx-15" being fed courtesy of a "hifonics" amp pushing 1000-1500 watts rms...Mmmmm Yummy.
03-18-2009, 06:00 AM
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I have never tried it in a Taurus. I have however tried different orientations in my Cavalier. What I have found is subs facing rear of trunk with box against the rear seat is the loudest. It also eliminates the huge gain when opening the doors.
HTH
Nick
HTH
Nick
03-18-2009, 10:34 AM
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03-18-2009, 05:55 PM
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[QUOTE=chillin 12345;468871]How about when you had your subs facing the front, with the seats up? How did it compare as to facing the back? QUOTE]
They were not as loud and they would get considerably louder with the trunk or a door open. With them against the seat facing back they are as loud as they were before when a door was open.
Nick
They were not as loud and they would get considerably louder with the trunk or a door open. With them against the seat facing back they are as loud as they were before when a door was open.
Nick
03-18-2009, 07:20 PM
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[QUOTE=420guy;468954]
One of my buddies had a z24 with the seats folded down with 2 rockford fosgate 12" subs facing the front, and was quite loud.With tons of bass. I guess i will have to try several locations to get the best bass response. when i find that sweet spot that makes my back feel like its being ripped apart, then that will be where i mount the sub box. 
...This is how i like the bass in my car>
...pounding on my head. I d'ont think 1 -12" sub and 450watts rms going to it is gonna do it.
How about when you had your subs facing the front, with the seats up? How did it compare as to facing the back? QUOTE]
They were not as loud and they would get considerably louder with the trunk or a door open. With them against the seat facing back they are as loud as they were before when a door was open.
Nick
They were not as loud and they would get considerably louder with the trunk or a door open. With them against the seat facing back they are as loud as they were before when a door was open.
Nick
...This is how i like the bass in my car>...pounding on my head. I d'ont think 1 -12" sub and 450watts rms going to it is gonna do it.
03-18-2009, 07:28 PM
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[QUOTE=chillin 12345;469004]
One of my buddies had a z24 with the seats folded down with 2 rockford fosgate 12" subs facing the front, and was quite loud.With tons of bass. I guess i will have to try several locations to get the best bass response. when i find that sweet spot that makes my back feel like its being ripped apart, then that will be where i mount the sub box....This is how i like the bass in my car>...pounding on my head. I d'ont think 1 -12" sub and 450watts rms going to it is gonna do it.
Never under-estimate the possibilities......
Yank the rear speakers out, put the sub in the right ported box, shove it up against the back of the rear seat facing the rear and you're good to go.....
HTH
One of my buddies had a z24 with the seats folded down with 2 rockford fosgate 12" subs facing the front, and was quite loud.With tons of bass. I guess i will have to try several locations to get the best bass response. when i find that sweet spot that makes my back feel like its being ripped apart, then that will be where i mount the sub box.
...This is how i like the bass in my car>...pounding on my head. I d'ont think 1 -12" sub and 450watts rms going to it is gonna do it.Yank the rear speakers out, put the sub in the right ported box, shove it up against the back of the rear seat facing the rear and you're good to go.....
HTH
03-18-2009, 07:33 PM
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[QUOTE=chillin 12345;469004]
One of my buddies had a z24 with the seats folded down with 2 rockford fosgate 12" subs facing the front, and was quite loud.With tons of bass. I guess i will have to try several locations to get the best bass response. when i find that sweet spot that makes my back feel like its being ripped apart, then that will be where i mount the sub box....This is how i like the bass in my car>...pounding on my head. I d'ont think 1 -12" sub and 450watts rms going to it is gonna do it.
You would be surprised what the right box and setup can do. Check out the video in this thread those are the subs that just came out of my car and went into a 2000 Cavalier....
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/onli...uy-bigred.html
Those are 2x 10" 150wrms 1cu' each sealed running off of a RF P3001 amp pushing 382 watts to them. It felt like your kid was sitting in the back kicking your seat constantly. Would bounce my sunglasses off the dash, and cause the FRONT licence plate to rattle. I personally do not like having to have the seats folded down to hear my subs. I have pulled the stock speakers out of the rear deck and now have 2 nice ports there. Didn't really notice a big difference though with or without them. 
If you don't plan on running rear fill try pulling them out and see if you gain any. LOL took too long to post 
Also IIRC a guy I used to work with had a newer Taurus 2000+ 12" ported and it was against the seat and facing back and it pounded pretty good.
HTH
Nick
One of my buddies had a z24 with the seats folded down with 2 rockford fosgate 12" subs facing the front, and was quite loud.With tons of bass. I guess i will have to try several locations to get the best bass response. when i find that sweet spot that makes my back feel like its being ripped apart, then that will be where i mount the sub box.
...This is how i like the bass in my car>...pounding on my head. I d'ont think 1 -12" sub and 450watts rms going to it is gonna do it.http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/onli...uy-bigred.html
Those are 2x 10" 150wrms 1cu' each sealed running off of a RF P3001 amp pushing 382 watts to them. It felt like your kid was sitting in the back kicking your seat constantly.
Would bounce my sunglasses off the dash, and cause the FRONT licence plate to rattle. I personally do not like having to have the seats folded down to hear my subs. I have pulled the stock speakers out of the rear deck and now have 2 nice ports there. Didn't really notice a big difference though with or without them. If you don't plan on running rear fill try pulling them out and see if you gain any. LOL took too long to post Also IIRC a guy I used to work with had a newer Taurus 2000+ 12" ported and it was against the seat and facing back and it pounded pretty good. HTH
Nick
03-18-2009, 08:08 PM
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[QUOTE=BigRedGuy;469006]
"never under-estimate the possibilities" ... My own spin on that sentence is "That sounds pretty good. I wonder how my car will sound if i change this, add that ect" As you all know, car audio can be a very addictive hobby. I havn't had a good system in a car for about 10 years, So i think my ear drums are due to have the cob webs blown off them by some decent subbass!!! What i can't believe is how cheap electronics have gotten in the last 10 years! Heck, i'm used to paying $500 for a decent amp. Nowdays for $500, you can get a killer kick *** amp. I love tecnology.
The reason i got out of car audio, was even though i had some "killer systems", i was never satisfied. I always wanted better.. Maybe now that i am a little older, i will not have such high expectations. Now lets see. I need to sell this infinity 12" and buy a "css sdx-15", sell my infinity amp and get that hifonics that is good for 1500 watts rms........Oh no, i think the "car audio bug" has bit me again! 
The reason i got out of car audio, was even though i had some "killer systems", i was never satisfied. I always wanted better.. Maybe now that i am a little older, i will not have such high expectations. Now lets see. I need to sell this infinity 12" and buy a "css sdx-15", sell my infinity amp and get that hifonics that is good for 1500 watts rms........Oh no, i think the "car audio bug" has bit me again!
03-18-2009, 08:55 PM
#10
In a car with a trunk you are always going to get the best response with the subs either facing back, or forward with the box at the back of the trunk..
that is unless you fire them into the cabin with the rest of the trunk sealed off..
that is unless you fire them into the cabin with the rest of the trunk sealed off..
