Buying from the US
10-29-2004, 05:35 PM
#12
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buy canadian and support yourself
why do we give all our money to the americans
were the most unpatriotic country going
what do the americans do for us
oh i forgot shut the door on our beef lumber and now pork
so ya give them your money too they need it to fight the war
why do we give all our money to the americans
were the most unpatriotic country going
what do the americans do for us
oh i forgot shut the door on our beef lumber and now pork
so ya give them your money too they need it to fight the war
10-29-2004, 05:37 PM
#13
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Originally posted by pinhead:
buy canadian and support yourself
why do we give all our money to the americans
were the most unpatriotic country going
what do the americans do for us
oh i forgot shut the door on our beef lumber and now pork
so ya give them your money too they need it to fight the war
buy canadian and support yourself
why do we give all our money to the americans
were the most unpatriotic country going
what do the americans do for us
oh i forgot shut the door on our beef lumber and now pork
so ya give them your money too they need it to fight the war
10-29-2004, 05:45 PM
#14
Originally posted by pinhead:
buy canadian and support yourself
why do we give all our money to the americans
were the most unpatriotic country going
what do the americans do for us
oh i forgot shut the door on our beef lumber and now pork
so ya give them your money too they need it to fight the war
buy canadian and support yourself
why do we give all our money to the americans
were the most unpatriotic country going
what do the americans do for us
oh i forgot shut the door on our beef lumber and now pork
so ya give them your money too they need it to fight the war
Besides, the manufacturing jobs are goin further south than the US or to Asia. Professional services is where it's at these days [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
BTW the US buys over 80% of our exports
[ October 29, 2004, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: Kool ]
10-29-2004, 06:24 PM
#16
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Originally posted by Kool:
If it is used, just have the sender package the item really well and declare it for a low value. $40 CDN is the threshold for taxation in the majority of cases. Therefore having an item declared at $40 or below will avoid paying any taxes, or brokerage for that matter. Customs can not prove anything as to how much you actually paid for it. It is like how buying a car used to be. The seller would sign a receipt for half the actual amount paid to save the buyer $ in taxes. (Unfortunately the government figured this out and now uses the greater of book value or amount paid)
However, it is ESSENTIAL that the item is packaged VERY well as it can only be insured for the value it is declared.
Buying new is more of a risk, as it is possible that the package will be inspected. New items usually come with a receipt, so you would have to have the sender email you an invoice. Customs agents also have access to price lists and MSRPs for some products. They may assess the item based on these lists if they suspect fraud, as well as add on a penalty. However, for the most part government employees are lazy and inefficient and basically inspection = more work lol They only really inspect very large orders. Can you imagine how long it would take for packages to clear customs if every package was inspected? The government just likes to make you think you will get caught. Therefore, in all liklihood, packages won't be inspected unless highly suspicious, or if they are large orders with low declared values. I have yet to have a package inspected myself. [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
BTW, don't get the sender to list the item as a gift, as I'm sure packages sent as gifts at times other than XMAS are somewhat suspicious, and may warrant inspection. There is really no benefit in having the package classified as a gift anyway. All it does is make the untaxable amount $50 instead of $40 as far as I know.
All in all, buying from the US can save you a lot of $ right now if you use this method, as the exchange rate is the highest it has been in years.
If it is used, just have the sender package the item really well and declare it for a low value. $40 CDN is the threshold for taxation in the majority of cases. Therefore having an item declared at $40 or below will avoid paying any taxes, or brokerage for that matter. Customs can not prove anything as to how much you actually paid for it. It is like how buying a car used to be. The seller would sign a receipt for half the actual amount paid to save the buyer $ in taxes. (Unfortunately the government figured this out and now uses the greater of book value or amount paid)
However, it is ESSENTIAL that the item is packaged VERY well as it can only be insured for the value it is declared.
Buying new is more of a risk, as it is possible that the package will be inspected. New items usually come with a receipt, so you would have to have the sender email you an invoice. Customs agents also have access to price lists and MSRPs for some products. They may assess the item based on these lists if they suspect fraud, as well as add on a penalty. However, for the most part government employees are lazy and inefficient and basically inspection = more work
lol They only really inspect very large orders. Can you imagine how long it would take for packages to clear customs if every package was inspected? The government just likes to make you think you will get caught. Therefore, in all liklihood, packages won't be inspected unless highly suspicious, or if they are large orders with low declared values. I have yet to have a package inspected myself. [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] BTW, don't get the sender to list the item as a gift, as I'm sure packages sent as gifts at times other than XMAS are somewhat suspicious, and may warrant inspection. There is really no benefit in having the package classified as a gift anyway. All it does is make the untaxable amount $50 instead of $40 as far as I know.
All in all, buying from the US can save you a lot of $ right now if you use this method, as the exchange rate is the highest it has been in years.
10-29-2004, 06:31 PM
#17
Originally posted by Phiber Optik:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kool:
If it is used, just have the sender package the item really well and declare it for a low value. $40 CDN is the threshold for taxation in the majority of cases. Therefore having an item declared at $40 or below will avoid paying any taxes, or brokerage for that matter. Customs can not prove anything as to how much you actually paid for it. It is like how buying a car used to be. The seller would sign a receipt for half the actual amount paid to save the buyer $ in taxes. (Unfortunately the government figured this out and now uses the greater of book value or amount paid)
However, it is ESSENTIAL that the item is packaged VERY well as it can only be insured for the value it is declared.
Buying new is more of a risk, as it is possible that the package will be inspected. New items usually come with a receipt, so you would have to have the sender email you an invoice. Customs agents also have access to price lists and MSRPs for some products. They may assess the item based on these lists if they suspect fraud, as well as add on a penalty. However, for the most part government employees are lazy and inefficient and basically inspection = more work lol They only really inspect very large orders. Can you imagine how long it would take for packages to clear customs if every package was inspected? The government just likes to make you think you will get caught. Therefore, in all liklihood, packages won't be inspected unless highly suspicious, or if they are large orders with low declared values. I have yet to have a package inspected myself. [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
BTW, don't get the sender to list the item as a gift, as I'm sure packages sent as gifts at times other than XMAS are somewhat suspicious, and may warrant inspection. There is really no benefit in having the package classified as a gift anyway. All it does is make the untaxable amount $50 instead of $40 as far as I know.
All in all, buying from the US can save you a lot of $ right now if you use this method, as the exchange rate is the highest it has been in years.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kool:
If it is used, just have the sender package the item really well and declare it for a low value. $40 CDN is the threshold for taxation in the majority of cases. Therefore having an item declared at $40 or below will avoid paying any taxes, or brokerage for that matter. Customs can not prove anything as to how much you actually paid for it. It is like how buying a car used to be. The seller would sign a receipt for half the actual amount paid to save the buyer $ in taxes. (Unfortunately the government figured this out and now uses the greater of book value or amount paid)
However, it is ESSENTIAL that the item is packaged VERY well as it can only be insured for the value it is declared.
Buying new is more of a risk, as it is possible that the package will be inspected. New items usually come with a receipt, so you would have to have the sender email you an invoice. Customs agents also have access to price lists and MSRPs for some products. They may assess the item based on these lists if they suspect fraud, as well as add on a penalty. However, for the most part government employees are lazy and inefficient and basically inspection = more work
lol They only really inspect very large orders. Can you imagine how long it would take for packages to clear customs if every package was inspected? The government just likes to make you think you will get caught. Therefore, in all liklihood, packages won't be inspected unless highly suspicious, or if they are large orders with low declared values. I have yet to have a package inspected myself. [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] BTW, don't get the sender to list the item as a gift, as I'm sure packages sent as gifts at times other than XMAS are somewhat suspicious, and may warrant inspection. There is really no benefit in having the package classified as a gift anyway. All it does is make the untaxable amount $50 instead of $40 as far as I know.
All in all, buying from the US can save you a lot of $ right now if you use this method, as the exchange rate is the highest it has been in years.
The customs agents can't really prove anything. They don't have book values for used equipment.However, if it is a $2000 piece of equipment for example, and they happen to check the package (rare if it doesn't look suspicious), they would likely give you a hard time. So if the product has a very high value, I would recomend declaring somewhat higher to still save you tax, but also to seem more believable to save any hassle.
My view is that there should be absolutely no taxes on anything that is used!........ (I'm going to digress here
) Where the hell does the government get off chargin me tax on a used vehicle when it was already taxed once when purchased new! Double taxation sucks! Sorry for the rant lol[ October 29, 2004, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: Kool ]
10-29-2004, 07:41 PM
#18
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[quote]Originally posted by Kool:
yes us product do
and thats usually it
the middleman is another canadian
i feel sorry for all you's selfish people
its all about me me me
you don't know what your doing to yourself
you have no economic understanding
when we all work for 8 dollars an hour at an american owned place see who's screeming them
Actually most of the products come through the US anyway. I see no point in supporting a middleman.
and thats usually it
the middleman is another canadian
i feel sorry for all you's selfish people
its all about me me me
you don't know what your doing to yourself
you have no economic understanding
when we all work for 8 dollars an hour at an american owned place see who's screeming them
10-29-2004, 09:34 PM
#20
Originally posted by pinhead:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kool:
yes us product do
and thats usually it
the middleman is another canadian
i feel sorry for all you's selfish people
its all about me me me
you don't know what your doing to yourself
you have no economic understanding
when we all work for 8 dollars an hour at an american owned place see who's screeming them </font>
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kool:
Actually most of the products come through the US anyway. I see no point in supporting a middleman.
and thats usually it
the middleman is another canadian
i feel sorry for all you's selfish people
its all about me me me
you don't know what your doing to yourself
you have no economic understanding
when we all work for 8 dollars an hour at an american owned place see who's screeming them </font>
Left wingers like you have no concept about marketing or economics and only think irrationally. You can only see one side to it, and you argue with emotion, not rationale. The benefit offered by shops is that they provide customer service, and some of the market values this. People like me don't value this service, and choose not to pay for it. We prefer low prices. Why should we be put down for this? We are not the target market of shops, whether they realize it or not! If I am to give away my hard earned money, I would much prefer to give it to a charitable cause such as the Cancer Society. [img]smile.gif[/img]
And your comment about 8 dollar /hr wages is irrelevent unless you are talking about flipping burgers at McDick's. US companies, for the most part, do not outsource labour to Canada. They outsource jobs to Mexico and Asia, where labour is much cheaper. As a whole, our standard of living is going up as we move towards a service based economy. Professional services aren't outsourced outside the country as much as other types of labour, and this is where the real $ is. Our workforce has shifted from manufacturing to services, and on average, our standard of living has increased as a result.
[img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] If you are talking about how Canada is a branch plant economy for the US, well that is another issue entirely and it has to do with the scarcity of venture capital in Canada, the heavy taxation on businesses by the government, as well as protectionist policies that make it easier and more beneficial for US companies to set up shop within our borders rather than export to us. Maybe if you voted PC we could fix these problems in order to open up the market a little
I'm NOT purely right wing by the way
lol Just trying to make a point. Down with Bush!!!! [img]smile.gif[/img][ October 29, 2004, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: Kool ]
