the car audio industry
04-28-2004, 02:05 PM
#81
from my understanding u do work part time at futureshop, and goin by what u are saying kenwood amps are perfectly slavable. so then if u were the sales man in question and the customer asked u can u slave these .........what would u say??? what would u do??? would u let the customer spend the money and buy those kenwoods in an attempt to slave them? Or would you tell him not to bother? Considering customer's knowledge of car audio is VERY little, he only goes by MAX ratings. Also consider the fact that had u tell him what u just told me he would probably not go through with the sale......what would YOU do?
[ April 28, 2004, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Tinted ]
[ April 28, 2004, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Tinted ]
04-28-2004, 02:10 PM
#82
I would do my homework before spurting off and getting myself canned. No offence intended either dude. It seems that you were rock solid sure at the time and now are second guessing yourself. In any case if you were right then you should have involved the salesperson in question, taken the time to step him and the customer through the proper procedures to help educate both of them, problem solved, customer happy, deal saved and you would have still been employed.
04-28-2004, 02:13 PM
#83
And that was on topic for this discussion, a shining example of how easy it is for a salesperson in this industry to make a mistake. Never underestimate the customer, for all you know it could be me or Tim, Paul, Dereck or any other person who actually does know more than the salesperson.
04-28-2004, 02:15 PM
#84
customer would not buy the stuff either way. i would get fired the same way and i did try to get the sale guy involved. and yes i am rock solid that the customer had less than basic knowledge of car audio and the 'slave' term he probably heard from a friend or a forum or something. In my view the customer was getting ripped off, i feel that i did the right thing........b/c he would bring it all back anyways.
oh, and about getting my homework done, at the time i had two dei 1100d's which were slavable with a simple hit of a switch and one rca wire, whereas kenwood provided no such feature or proposition that their amps were slavable.
as for educationg the salesguy, i agree that i should have taken steps to do that, and guess what? i did try constantly, some listened and some didnt care at all. This was one of the guys who never bothered to learn b/c he knew he was good at talking customers into buying stuff. I did bring this up to the managers' attention and guess what again? manager to me told mind my business and that i he will 'look into it' which ofcoarse he never did
in no way i under estimate a customer, i have been doing sales for a long time in many diff industries. i alwasy examine a customer first and then try to determine their degree of knowledge with respect to a certain product or service. I know exactly what u are sayin when u said that it could be any of u guys....however had this customer known about the proper slaving proceedure for the kenwoods he would probably still buy them even after i spoke to him.
[ April 28, 2004, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: Tinted ]
oh, and about getting my homework done, at the time i had two dei 1100d's which were slavable with a simple hit of a switch and one rca wire, whereas kenwood provided no such feature or proposition that their amps were slavable.
as for educationg the salesguy, i agree that i should have taken steps to do that, and guess what? i did try constantly, some listened and some didnt care at all. This was one of the guys who never bothered to learn b/c he knew he was good at talking customers into buying stuff. I did bring this up to the managers' attention and guess what again? manager to me told mind my business and that i he will 'look into it' which ofcoarse he never did
in no way i under estimate a customer, i have been doing sales for a long time in many diff industries. i alwasy examine a customer first and then try to determine their degree of knowledge with respect to a certain product or service. I know exactly what u are sayin when u said that it could be any of u guys....however had this customer known about the proper slaving proceedure for the kenwoods he would probably still buy them even after i spoke to him.
[ April 28, 2004, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: Tinted ]
04-28-2004, 02:27 PM
#85
yes i agree this has gone off topic, but we all knew it would sooner or later. i just want to say that i appreciate everyone's input into the topic and that car audio industry sucks for the most part, whether u are a competitor, manufacturer, retailer or whatnot. Dont get too deep into it unless u REALLY need to. I personally regret i ever got involved.
04-28-2004, 02:37 PM
#86
I don't, I have educated countless customers, provided competent employment to many people over the last 8 years, worked closely with the high schools for work experience, recovered more stolen stereo gear than I can count, made countless friends in the industry, seen some of them move on and excel. This is a interesting industry and no one said it would be easy. Perhaps you would be best at the quicky mart serving squishies. hahaha. In this industry you either live and breathe it or you sink in it and it buries you alive with Sony and Bose.
The car audio industry is what you make of it. And don't forget that sealed boxes wail. Any takers?
The car audio industry is what you make of it. And don't forget that sealed boxes wail. Any takers?
04-28-2004, 03:21 PM
#88
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Originally posted by Tinted:
. i just want to say that i appreciate everyone's input into the topic and that car audio industry sucks for the most part, whether u are a competitor, manufacturer, retailer or whatnot.
. i just want to say that i appreciate everyone's input into the topic and that car audio industry sucks for the most part, whether u are a competitor, manufacturer, retailer or whatnot.
04-28-2004, 03:28 PM
#89
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I wasn't trying to "prove you wrong" Tinted just letting you know that it was possible. Also I think Juan had the correct definaitions of slave/bridge, but that's not always how the average Joe uses them, they use them more interchangably. I know what you mean about the sales staff, Tinted, unfortunatley people who make stuff up, have good numbers in the short term, while knowledgable sales staff have good numbers in the long term.
On the topic of bridging, Richard Clark said you could technically bridge an unlimited number of channels together, but seemed to disapear when someone asked for a schematic.
On the topic of bridging, Richard Clark said you could technically bridge an unlimited number of channels together, but seemed to disapear when someone asked for a schematic.
04-28-2004, 05:26 PM
#90
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tinted i would look at a slave being an amp controlled by a master gain from the first amp in the chain thats my take on it
dereck i have the schematic saved for strapping two amps if you would like it emailed to you let me know
dereck i have the schematic saved for strapping two amps if you would like it emailed to you let me know
