cheapest amp to run 2 12inch JL W7s
 

Hi, Im on a tight budget. im looking to get 1 amp that will be able to run 2 12inch JL W7s without under or overpowering them.
looking for an amp in the 300-500 dollar range.

any suggestions?

also, are jl 12w7s worth the investment or is there something better for cheaper?

kinda a noob to the car audio scene my bad.

Are you trying to get loud or good sound? Post as much info as possible, vehicle make model year, the rest of the system etc. Overspending on subs and underspending on amp is a really bad idea that ends in disaster 99% of the time.

spend lotsa money on subs but wants to cheap out on amp. doesnt make sense..

I've got a BNIB sundown audio 2000D for $750

hey thanks for the reply man!
i got a 2002 celica auto.
i wanna get 2 12s. i wanna get LOUD. I just heard 2 12 w7s a guy is selling them so i wanted to hear. with the bass totally flat its like SQ and with it up its SPL , inbetween its SQL , i must say i was impressed with the w7s, but i know there are a ton of subs out there. i wanna invest my money the right way into the right subs and amp(s).

i dont want to totally cheap out , i know that even amps from pawn shops can be impressive and run high end subs well. high price doesnt always mean the best. im not in the position to spend 1000+ on amps esp. when i know i can power them well and properly with an amp that is cheaper.

will this amp power 2 12w7s properly? PM me

if you are on a tight budget look elsewhere than two 12" w7's. you will need quite alot of power to properly feed them, a massive box, possibly upgraded electrical, and if you do all that, say goodbye to actual music because you wont hear unless you invest in decent speakers and then an amp for them.

all of which = money and lots of it.
two w7's would be sweet....but not on a budget in my opinion

if you are set on them, start off with one, get a proper amp, and invest in a second one later. you may just be happy with one anyways and save yourself alot of dough

1000 each will get you loud with the right box, right amp, solid electrical system.

is there a huge difference between 12 w6 and w7s?

In that car without a major upgrade to the electrical system I would drop the idea of two W7's altogether. You have the tiny little alternator that can't in this case. A single sub, a good sub, in the proper slot port box is probably all you need. A pair of respectable subs with the proper amp would do fine as well. The more you put in the back for bass response, the more weight you add as well and the more the handling of the car is affected. Next hurdle, how is the balance of the stereo going to be able to keep up with all the death by bass from the back?

Get this http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/onli...ers-250-a.html

Right box and you'll be happy.

The JL W7 is so over priced for what you get.

^^^^ best advice your gonna get!

i use to have 2 12inch JL w0s in my talon which is almost the same design as the celica. i went thru 6 alternators a dozen alt.belts it was a nightmare. i dont want that to happen again so i will be investing in a 180-200amp alternator and a yellow top optima battery for the car to run off of and also possible a smaller battery for the system to run off of. i think that should be enough. secondly, its obvious that i must by another amp and high/mid/tweets for the front end thats for sure.

for all those who read this. i am interested in buying / setting up a system, so if u guys got stuff for sale that would be of use to me let me know.

so yea, w6s vs w7s big difference? would u say 2 w6s = 1 w7?

w6 is a completely different sub, pretty sq oriented. nicer overall sub in my mind.
that sundown is a sweet amp.

lol, i say it to everyone, if you want a "sql" sub. check out and IDMAX. can't be beat!
extremely efficient, very musical, affordable, and they pound!

consider that Fi as well, they are really nice.

i checked it out, looks nice, but until i hear it with my own ears i wont know,. i would reply to that thread but i dont have enough respect points of whatever,. i wanna ask that dude if he can meet me for a demo.
which would be better 2 w6s or 1 fibtl?

the W6 are more a ound quality sub - not to say they won't get loud in the right box.

My pick is the Fi BTL because IMHO it's a better built sub.

Keep me posted if you are interested in my 2000D

oh and how many db do u think that fi 12 is hitting? and are capacitor caps really worth it or are they useless?

would that 2000d run 2 w6s? or the fi?

They are a completely different sub, I would not say that they are the same at all. They are however massively overpriced in Canada. If you want loud and stinking good sound, I have a tried and true option for you. Amp and sub that is going to land around the $1300 mark that will deliver stunning results. Results that can be verified by members here on the site. It will require the upgrades to the electrical system that you are looking to do for sure. You will definitely need to throw some power at the front speakers at the same time or you will be a bass machine and that is all.

you cannot tell how many db a sub hits simply by the sub. there are a million things to take into account. power, box design just to name a few.

and you are never going to get a definitive answer on caps. there are die hard believers either way. you need to make up your own mind through your own experience if they are worthwhile or not.

Cap are Caps. I know many people who hate them and other who love them. It's a personal choice. I don't use them personally.

How many db's you ask? I can't answer that. If the BTL is put in a "proper" box with the proper electrical system it will 9 times out of 10 hammer the hell out of your car. You put it in a box with 1/3 of the power and electrical it will either destroy the sub or batts and alts

1300 for the amp and sub or 1300 for sub 1300 for amp?

please tell me what set up u are speaking of, 1 12? 2 12s? u got me interested.
electrical system and highs will be upgraded for sure. i was going to do that first thing, IMO any car thats riced out needs upgrades in the electrical depart.

the 2000d will run anything really....it all depends on what impedance load you give it.

Amp and sub, both new, both with full warranty and the guy with it in his car is in the Toronto area and my bet would let you listen to it. PM Basstoy for info. Amp is a high end Italian import, the Macrom M1A1500d and the sub is a Digital Designs DD3512. Have the box custom made for the sub and for the vehicle and it is a guaranteed proven system. If you abuse the sub and blow it, it can easily be reconed to get you up and running again without the need to buy a new sub.

the site is not letting me PM anyone, can u please pm him and tell him to pm me or sumthing,. im interested and i can totally afford 1300 for amp and sub. i wanna hear it!!!

^^^done

e-mail me your contact information to forbidden at telus dot net , make sure your name and number is in the e-mail.

ok i send u the email thanks and if sumone can email the guy that is selling the fi please tell him to contact me with his cell number so i can talk to him and possibly set up a demo with him. thanks guys

whoever just called me pls call again cuz your cell was cutting out real bad

Buying a used sub with no warranty is a big time gamble, especially when there is zero recourse for you.

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akuma4u

pm this guy he wants to hear it!

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Sorry, I sold the monoblock today and the car it came from is in storage anyways.

12" Fi BTL @ 2500RMS demo's begin next year. =D
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very true... its risky

thanks 4 helping bro

If one knows the person whom is selling the sub and can vouch for it's authenticity, that is another story. Once in a while I will take in a used sub when I know it's history and it is a sub that I originally sold. Buying used is always a risk no matter whom the seller is, be it a store or a person. If the person or the store is ethical and can show you that the item being sold works as advertised, then I see no problem with it at all. After that if you abuse the item and it is toast because of it, then you are on your own. This is the risk that you assume when buying used.

You have a return e-mail as well.

ya thats why im so skepitcal when meeting up with guys trying to sell me their subs esp. those who dont have it hooked up and are not able to test it out for me at all. I was told a long time ago that there is a technique that you can use to check to see if a sub is blown or semi blown. I was told that you push down near the outer part of the sub about half an inch and if you hear scraping or crunching or friction then the sub is no good. I tried to test this technique out wit a guy that was selling me his w6s and he didnt let me do it and said that it would hurt the sub. That made me even more skeptical. Cuz now im thinking maybe he doesnt want me to hear the friction or maybe he is telling the truth that it would hurt the sub, i dunno. But yea,. buying used subs/amps, is risky business always.

That is the most basic of tests that in some cases is also highly misleading. One needs to have a meter to ensure that the coils are not wide open or dead shorted or damaged. The best test though, listen to them.

the W7 is the last place I would look if I was on a budget and wanted good SQ
I could probably set you up with a pair of 12" SSA Icons and an Exile amp
with your budget....

those ssa subs how many watts rms and whats the frequency of them? is it possible to set up a demo in the toronto area?