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Old 02-05-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad The Best
don't you ground that anyway ? my deck has like 3 grounds on it i grounded them all never had this problem . but have herd of it , btw most people call it alternator buzz .
On some decks the outer shield of the RCA is totally isolated from the chasis ground. If you take a meter you can measure it.
were not talking about one deck, some decks are designed kinda funny(clarion video screens). On a good day our bay installs up to twenty decks, so we see every problem possible.
theres no H/U that has a grounding strap for RCA's, back in the 80's phoenix gold made RCA's with an extra ground lead of the shield.
What kind of deck do you have that has three grounds? Pioneer AVIC series?
And the proper name is engine noise.at least thats what I've heard it called for the last 20 years. Maybe im wrong
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:26 PM
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Ya I had the same problem with my old pioneer 4600 so I had to put ground loops on the rcas
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dukk
The problem with the Pioneer's isn't induced noise, it is an internal problem.
Trust me its 'induced' noise otherwise it wouldn't be there... the internal problem is poor signal ground isolation circuitry; and if grounding the RCA fixes the problem then its obviously a feedback issue...
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:13 PM
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So Its A Wireing Prob Within The Amp or shell i say a wiring prob to the amp (bad Ground)

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Old 02-05-2007, 07:25 PM
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Circuit design of the Pioneer cd player. There is a small 1/4 amp fuse that is blown on the bottom of the circuit board. Either send the unit in for service or ground the shield of the rca cables at the cd player end.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:23 PM
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i've got this same problem, just can't listen to the stereo anymore

i originally thought this was a problem from the HU internally, older 9805 alpine

i added an extra ground strap from the chassis and that didn't help

can someone post a pic or a link to some good isolators?

would three sets be needed if i'm using three rca's?? (two for the speakers, one for the sub)

thanks

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Old 02-05-2007, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ShonBesharah
And the proper name is engine noise.at least thats what I've heard it called for the last 20 years. Maybe im wrong
ok can you explain to me how your engine is producing this ? why would you call it engine noise if the engine doesn't create it why not call it banana peal . its a jvc . thanks for clearing up the thing about the back of the deck with me , i apologize for not thinking about different designs .

i suppose you can call it what ever you want

sorry im being rude

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Old 02-05-2007, 11:15 PM
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^ engine noise because the noise changes freq with the RPM of the engine.... although most ppl call it 'alternator whine' because the alt is what is actually making the magnetic noise being picked up by our equipment....

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i've got this same problem, just can't listen to the stereo anymore i originally thought this was a problem from the HU internally, older 9805 alpine i added an extra ground strap from the chassis and that didn't help can someone post a pic or a link to some good isolators? would three sets be needed if i'm using three rca's?? (two for the speakers, one for the sub)
Check out David Navone - Car Audio Engineering they have more then one fix from ground chokes, RCA transformers, PSUs with active suppression, and the best fix a psu with floating ground...

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Old 02-07-2007, 05:11 PM
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tried grounding the rca's, it only lowered the level of the engine noise meaning the noise was not as loud as it was before, but it still is evident that i have the problem, really pissing me off, so right now the deck is out the dash until i can find a suitable replacement, either the excelon 990 eclipse 5000 or the excelon dvd, no more pioneer (unless it's free.)
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:58 PM
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could a bad ground inside the deck cause this noise?

also how bad is this for the speakers?
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