No he was looking at my special on the refurbs. And the Infinity's were $449 so at $249 for a refurb is well worth it. BTW I said that the Exile was good gear for the record. And if he buys it at FS its a 1year warranty. Now the Exile is rated at 75x4 at 13.8v and the Infinity uses the CEA2006 rating so its 111x4 at 14.4v. so you should get a little more power then 75 at 14.4 on the Exile. And just becuase we dont sell something does not mean we dont know anything Grant. Also, correction after speaking with my rep those Infinity refurbs have full warranty. :)