Fraudulent power wire?
11-30-2009, 05:57 PM
#11
Most people don't want to spend any money.
And that is why there are junk kits.
That's why people shop on ebay and kijiji.
I can't tell you how many times I've been told that someone can
get my product for have the price online.
Don't get me wrong I like to save a buck or two when I can,
But sometimes you need to open you wallet and pay for the quality
And that is why there are junk kits.
That's why people shop on ebay and kijiji.
I can't tell you how many times I've been told that someone can
get my product for have the price online.
Don't get me wrong I like to save a buck or two when I can,
But sometimes you need to open you wallet and pay for the quality
11-30-2009, 07:18 PM
#13
2000 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,026
AWG - American wire gauge is a legal standard referring to actually wire inside. You can't mess with that without being sued.
Gauge on it's own can mean what they want it to mean. 4 gauge wire can mean that you get 4 gauge housing over a single strand of wire. They didn't lie - the housing is 4 gauge . . . the problem is you assumed they were referring to the conductor, while they were referring to the over-all diameter.
I believe that the gauge number refers to diameter, the number is the inverse of the fractions of an inch. 16 gauge = 1/16" diameter; 4 gauge = 1/4" diameter; 0/1 = 1" diameter etc. So it is very easy to verify true AWG verses the other stuff out there.
We can blame shops. We can blame China. But really, we should blame ourselves - the consumer. We want stuff cheap . . . no cheaper still . . . that still ain't cheap enough! And so, to give people what they "want" for a cheap price all sorts of sub-par items have flooded the market. So we the consumers are to blame for putting price before quality / accuracy.
My local shop carries both. The sales guy is straight honest too, clearly explaining the differences. He says the majority of the time, the customer doesn't really care about actual, gauge, just the price. He offers one last warning, and then completes the sale. For him, it is a way of keeping business. They can get the same mislabeled crap at Canadian Tire, or at his shop. If he is competitive on those prices, he is more likely to have people return when they start to understand what it is really about.
11-30-2009, 07:23 PM
#14
Most people don't want to spend any money.
And that is why there are junk kits.
That's why people shop on ebay and kijiji.
I can't tell you how many times I've been told that someone can
get my product for have the price online.
Don't get me wrong I like to save a buck or two when I can,
But sometimes you need to open you wallet and pay for the quality
And that is why there are junk kits.
That's why people shop on ebay and kijiji.
I can't tell you how many times I've been told that someone can
get my product for have the price online.
Don't get me wrong I like to save a buck or two when I can,
But sometimes you need to open you wallet and pay for the quality
So... dont be surprised if a reseler in the US can buy for less and is willing to sell for a lower profit margin... result.. half price.
To be honest...I do believe that the canadian consumer could benefit from more open competition in canada between brick an mortar and online.. But as you know from your resale contracts with your suppliers... online sales are rather restricted....
Perhaps its also a volume thing...I recall being offered thru our chain to buy a container full of gear direct from china... but our 50 franchises could just not get to agree to buy in bulk.
Oh well.. we seem to want all thats good from the US...but we want our health care too! sigh...
I also suspect that many end of lots are sold at great discount in the US...or as you know.. buying more than you need in order to take advantage of rebates and volume discounts.. then flooding the grey market...
Last edited by zoomer; 11-30-2009 at 07:29 PM.
11-30-2009, 07:27 PM
#15
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,026
Hmmm . . .
It's all about spin.
I think I start my own wire manufacturing company: All Wired Goods, I'll go by A.W.G. as an acronym. I'll just number my wire sizes: 2, 4, 8 etc. I'll keep the wire jacket really simple. Just the wire size followed by my company acronym: A.W.G.
This could put a whole new spin on the confusion
It's all about spin.
I think I start my own wire manufacturing company: All Wired Goods, I'll go by A.W.G. as an acronym. I'll just number my wire sizes: 2, 4, 8 etc. I'll keep the wire jacket really simple. Just the wire size followed by my company acronym: A.W.G.
This could put a whole new spin on the confusion
11-30-2009, 07:29 PM
#16
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,599
Well there you go
4 kinds of consumers:
1- Cheep- buys the least expensive and feels good about himself
2- pragmatic- buys the correct size wire and feels good about himself
3- Paranoid/ overkill- buys bigger wire than he needs and feels good about himself and may be compensating for something
4- buys the most attractive wire colour and feels pretty (just kidding)
4 kinds of consumers:
1- Cheep- buys the least expensive and feels good about himself
2- pragmatic- buys the correct size wire and feels good about himself
3- Paranoid/ overkill- buys bigger wire than he needs and feels good about himself and may be compensating for something
4- buys the most attractive wire colour and feels pretty (just kidding)
11-30-2009, 07:38 PM
#17
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,026
. . . forget it, who am I kidding anyway . . . besides, who says that compensating for something is all bad anyway!
11-30-2009, 07:44 PM
#18
yea thats my thinking when buying condoms...I always buy the bigger size thinking that my equipment will eventually need it... and the label sure impresses the girl at the checkout counter...
