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11-18-2006, 03:40 PM
#23
Originally Posted by SQ Civic
don't see what you mean. I made a statement, you disagreed, and then I refind my statement, and then you agree? 
Mark
Mark
11-18-2006, 04:07 PM
#24
Originally Posted by AAAAAAA
You just refined what I was saying, wich is what I did to your first post, so now it seems we are on the same page
whatever, don't really care.. think whatever you want.
Mark
11-18-2006, 06:54 PM
#25
Originally Posted by SQ Civic
you said Distortion or clipping will damage speakers... it doesn't, and now you agree with me?
whatever, don't really care.. think whatever you want.
Mark
whatever, don't really care.. think whatever you want.
Mark
My only point was that the amp cliping can damage the speaker and that cliping is distortion. My point is especially true when it seems a cliped amp can put out up to 50% more of what its RMS power is. I dont know what's hard to get.
Unless you dont agree clipping is distortion?
Last edited by AAAAAAA; 11-18-2006 at 07:00 PM.
11-18-2006, 07:13 PM
#26
Originally Posted by AAAAAAA
Look, your first quote said that distortion could not hurt a speaker, I said distortion in the form of clipping can. Then you said if the cliping power is low enough it wont damage the speaker. How can I not agree with that?
My only point was that the amp cliping can damage the speaker and that cliping is distortion. My point is especially true when it seems a cliped amp can put out up to 50% more of what its RMS power is. I dont know what's hard to get.
Unless you dont agree clipping is distortion?
My only point was that the amp cliping can damage the speaker and that cliping is distortion. My point is especially true when it seems a cliped amp can put out up to 50% more of what its RMS power is. I dont know what's hard to get.
Unless you dont agree clipping is distortion?
I don't know why this doesn't make sense to you. clipped signal, distortion; it doesn't matter, it's all about the level, or power you're pushing to the driver, and when it comes down to it that's what is gong to kill a speaker, thermal overload, or mechanical limits being passed.... it has nothing to do with weather the signal is distorted, clipped or anything else with the signal...
is that clear?
Mark
11-18-2006, 07:18 PM
#27
Many of the speakers that I have seen have been damaged not by severe under or overpowering but because of incorrect settings by the user where the speaker cannot handle the frequncy and level being played with the power applied.
I've seen speakers underpowered and work for years like this just fine (although underpowered they never lived up to there full potential that they were designed for). If the customer wants to rock out just set up the system correctly and let them know the performance that they're going to get with less than required power levels (ie. make them pay the few dollars extra for the added power they require).
I've also seen more commonly a speaker powered much higher than rated work great for years and years. If you want to take mine for example my comps are rated for ~100rms per side but with 125rms to each I find the midbass not as strong as I would like from them. EQing doesn't work as well for them as adding power. The most I've had on them is 500rms per side with fantastic results. At the moment they are capable of receiving ~300rms per side. Nwo I know someone is going to chime in and say "the added power is going to shorten the speaker's lifespan" and "they'll play but only for so long until they give out from the stress". I've listened to these speakers playing strong for more than 13hrs straight on my drives to see my parents on N.S.
Need more, well how about I tell you these speakers are also 8+ years old now. It's all about proper settings, knowing limits, and proper design. And yes I like my music loud sometimes.
I've seen speakers underpowered and work for years like this just fine (although underpowered they never lived up to there full potential that they were designed for). If the customer wants to rock out just set up the system correctly and let them know the performance that they're going to get with less than required power levels (ie. make them pay the few dollars extra for the added power they require).
I've also seen more commonly a speaker powered much higher than rated work great for years and years. If you want to take mine for example my comps are rated for ~100rms per side but with 125rms to each I find the midbass not as strong as I would like from them. EQing doesn't work as well for them as adding power. The most I've had on them is 500rms per side with fantastic results. At the moment they are capable of receiving ~300rms per side. Nwo I know someone is going to chime in and say "the added power is going to shorten the speaker's lifespan" and "they'll play but only for so long until they give out from the stress". I've listened to these speakers playing strong for more than 13hrs straight on my drives to see my parents on N.S.
Need more, well how about I tell you these speakers are also 8+ years old now. It's all about proper settings, knowing limits, and proper design. And yes I like my music loud sometimes.
