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iTrader: (1)

Awesome man! I like the SP-series sub sitting there too. SP-415? I was actually thinking of trying to track down a pair of those for an IB install in my 02 Cavy. Would be hard to find in nice condition and without foam rot though. First pair of subs I ever owned were two SP-412 my mom bought me for Christmas back in 1992. I think they were like $249 ea. back then!

Really nice collection. I have a Power300 that's identical to that one, which is an early model due to the long tails on the R and F.

Sikk, I'm curious about those 4 18's. If you can grab a few pics, do so. Or even model numbers. Would be interseting to know if they are Pro's or not.

theboy

Nice stuff.....im selling off all my retro stuff...no need for it anymore.

alphadawg

it's more nostalgia than anything else...there's only so much you can use. Honestly, when I look inside the old amps, most of them are quite a mess. I'd be curious to see how they test with todays equipment compared side to side with a new amp with the same power and quality. Hard to see how all those rat's nest of wires could be quieter and more reliable than the surface mount circuits today.

Sikk Nation

iTrader: (1)

Yeah old amps sometimes look like trainwrecks. With wire jumprs all over the damn place. One amp I recall had the RCA's going to a twsited pair inside the amp casing, running right over top the transformer to connect back to board on the other side of the case.

sundownz

Nice collection!

alphadawg

honestly, I think nostalgia drives the legend status of most old equipment. I remember high end amps in the 80's and early 90's that had serious reliability issues, over heating, doa, lots of noises (turn on/off thumps, hiss, whines etc...) and are still being hailed as great amps that nothing today can match...bull !! The only reason so many of todays amps get a bad name is because there are 100 times as many people buying them...many of whom are not car audio freaks like back in the day. Most of these "normal" people don't have a clue about 12v installations, probably fry something or max the gains, drive the speakers to distortion and then claim that the product is . I'd be very curious to see some stats for failure rates, as 100000 units will have many more units that are bad, than 1000 units manufactured. Add to that the word of mouth and internet factor, which has now made everyone an expert, who can diss a product and have thousands see it in seconds. We all know that most people love to hate on something much more than praise it, so that effect has much to do with all the bad we hear about new gear.
Let's get some honest real testing of old and new and then see just how much better the old stuff really was. Hey I loved the old days too, nothing will bring those back, but I've had very good new equipment that sounds great and is performing very well for a fraction of the cost of similarly spec'd amps, speakers, and decks in the past...with virtually no noise, no heat problems, and much smaller for the same given power.

maltesechicken

^^^ x2

alphadawg

probably fets had a slightly higher tolerance, or some other very small difference. Those were good amps, had 2 punch 75s, and a 150 in my 87 5.0...I've always liked and had great luck with RF, and still use them mostly in my installs. Solid eqipment, but I do remember them getting pretty hot...my new ones don't even get warm.