I bought two pyramids pb2400b for my subs yesterday and installed them all today. It was long job since i only have a small civic hatchback and i had to take the backseat out to install my amps, the subs are in the trunk and I need the space between the amps and the front seats for scuba equipment. I just went for a ride to listen to the music and it sounds great and all but for some reason there is a strong odor coming from the amps, maybe because they are new, but it smells weird in the car. It is very unpleasant, could it be something about the amps being plugged wrong?I also have to say I had to take off the windshield washer reservoir to make room for a 2nd battery, my friend says its more power for the amps and in my town we dont really need windsheild washer, its pretty dry here. I was thinking maybe it overheats the amps, it really gets worst when I am driving around... Its weird though it doesnt smell like burnt but more like glue, as if the amp itself is just stinky.

Are the woofers new too? Are they in a vented box? Did you actually sniff an amp to confirm the smell comes from the amps?

What impedance and coil configuration are your woofers? What impedance does the manufacturer claim your amps are good to?

the battery is not overheating the amps

without an isolator though the second battery is a bad idea on your stock alt

civic alts are so small

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I think in a previous topic the bret said that he just bought them. On the mtx website the 9500 series come in dvc 4 ohms. If I'm not mistaken and those amps are "supposed" to be good for 1 ohm. I'm guessing he slapped two subs per amp in parallel (with VCs parallel) and is riding at 1 ohm.

Maybe the Pyramids can't hold their load [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]

And you mounted the battery where the washer fluid goes? Just my opinion but what happens if a bird ****s on your window? And what are you going to do in winter; use windex and clean the window while you're on the highway? [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]

Lastly, I think you shoud get help because if you mounted the amps where the rear seat is, I know at least MY gas tank is located there, probably yours too. I'm not sure that's the best place to put it...What do you guys think?

Above all, you should think about safety first.

oh god you are right, i smell gasoline
i also see some leaking on the pavement
should i remove the amp? the tank is not accessible very easily should I shoot some silicone or something to patch the hole?
that sucks one of my amps stoped working gd

[ August 12, 2004, 09:19 AM: Message edited by: the bret ]

Nice use of graemlins... LMAO

Bret... oh man, you put screws through your gas tank... lol...

Take the amps out... siphon/run the tank dry and remove it from underneath the car... use a repair kit from canadian tire to fill in the holes....

Be more carefull next time.. lol...

is this post a joke?

lmao

IMO, it's not that funny because imagine the guy's amps started sparking up and if they're near the gas tank <BOOM!!!!> and forget about the car; what's more important is there goes 4 perfectly good MTX 9500 series woofers [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

The Bret, you should take your front fuse out of your power wire, drain the tank like haunz said and remove the amps and gas tank so that you can repair it or have it repaired.

You might want to then find another place for your amps like...under the front seats?

Boh, I don't know but just be careful and ask before doing something you're not sure of, you could have blown yourself up!

three words

aquire prof installation!!!!

9500's on a pyramid, that was the first thing that caught my eye! Sorry to hear about the holy gastank thebret

well man if it makes you feel any better,many years ago a "professional" installer moved from the east to vic. bc. he boasted of his greatness of install ablility, and did a fine install in the back of a porsche 944.shortly there after the fuel gauge stopped working. the repair shop had a hell of a time getting the gastank out on account of the 13 long #8 screws railed into it from above. iguess this installer really wanted thoses amps to stay put. he promtly moved back east again. remember this:somebody has always f`ed up worse than you. save up for a decent amp, and keep at it.

^thats hiliarios. The guy that did mine, started drilling a hole in teh door for a new set of mounting holes, little did he realize, that his bracket put the holes wehre the window would be when its down. It was down while he was drilling :mad: But, he fixed all damage free of charge :D

hey , im back, dude. stop.stop.stop. just read your other post."panzi(amps in series)" for the love of large breasted women STOP!! enjoy the the story but please don`t keep at it. please tell me you have a fuse under the hood @ the battery and the power wire isnt running through the passenger door hinge and coiled up under the seat!

ok im lost, this has to be a joke

I am just starting on installation of systems, I thought the gas tank was closer to the front of the car but anyway I fixed it with some silicone since the guy at the store didnt want to weld it to close the holes. wanted to sell me a new tank... anyway now i have the problem that i need to install these amps somewhere or just leave them unattached? roads are kind of bumpy here, might be hard on the things...

[ August 13, 2004, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: the bret ]

use panel adhiesive to bond some mdf down to the metal floor then screw the amps to that.

there is one more thing that i think u can look at other than what is listed above. check to see what the actual voltage is at the amps. it should be at least. 12v or the protection sercutry in the amp will not work like it should. this can cause quite a few problems. like if the voltage is droppong the amp will produce more current internaly but doesn't have the voltage to drive the speakers and also the amp doesn't no that it is over loading it's self because the voltage is not present that would indicate such a problem to the amp.

what u need to look at is resistace of grounds and properconestions on the amps. so all i can say without seeing it is have a real good look and get out your multi-meter. have fun!

sorry i shot my stupid mouth off befor i read the whole forum. lol

Dude... I don't think that silicone is going to last... if you are going to fix it even 1/2assed.... get the silicone out.... go buy the proper stuff, and fill in the holes as best you can.....

My dad was driving over the harbor bridge one time down here in Texas. Its going into Corpus Christi. Anyway, he was cruisin at about 70 mph-cars are flying by doin 90-there is no way to get off the bridge-its big, fast paced and long.. He reached the top of the bridge and on the other side there was a fuc*kin driveshaft off of a 87 Buick in the middle of the lane. Its a 3lane road and there were cars on either side...so he just went ahead and ran that bitc* over. The funny part is that after the bridge the car was on the side of the road and a couple guys are standing outside it going "hey man theres a driveshaft" after the damage was done hahaha. anyway I drive that truck now and the point of this is that it bent my front right a arm, destroyed my fuel filter and housing, and put a huge gash/crater in the front of my gas tank. there were several little holes i guess stress fractures and now my gas tank holds 1.5 gallons less. My dad and i fixed the holes with some titanium putty that he got from work. That is some strong stuff so if you could find some of that USE IT. lets see...that was 6 years ago and i have not had any problem with it since.

No one in their right mind would weld a gas tank that isn't properly cleaned and probably blanketed with an inert gas (N2?).

Seal-All is petrol resistant in a pinch, silicone won't last. And there prbably is some kind of metal putty for this type of thing, but I don't remember seeing it.
Is the car very old? Maybe just replace the tank.

[ August 14, 2004, 04:30 PM: Message edited by: Fever ]

There are specific repair putties for gas tank use. This is one of them:
http://www.midwayautosupply.com/imag...x/80884_3X.jpg

^^ahh good 'ol Permatex. Should of known they would have something.

this has got to be a joke.

Who the hell has 4 15" MTX 9500's and then two ****-ass Pyramid amps.

ok thanks for your help for the tank but so far the silicone seems to do the job and getting the tank out again would be hell. as for the amps, i decided to put back the back seats and my friend told me i had enough room to install them inside my sub box. I end up with fixing the whole problem of finding room for them amps plus it looks much cleaner in the car.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...9/668845_1.jpg


As for the bad amps as you call them adam... they sound ok and i know i should have gotten mtx 1000rms amps but as you can see in the link below i had a money problem so I opted for the pyramids, when i get another student loan, maybe then ill buy a mtx my old post]click here for old post

[ August 16, 2004, 07:31 AM: Message edited by: the bret ]

The Bret, I'm just curious about a few things...

1) Why, oh why would you put an amp INSIDE of the sub box. I mean with subs like that, the amps are probably going to fly apart into a million pieces with all the vibrations.

2)Again, why are there wires hanging out of the ports...I mean I know Dukk would be proud of you for choosing a ported application, but I don't think ports are supposed to be used for passing wires, I think they're for air flow...

3)Why are the ground and power wires so darn small for an amp that puts out "2000 watts". And are those puny wires for both amps?!

4)And is the white wire or the telephone cord the turn on wire? For that matter, why is there a telephone cord in your box, don't you usually keep those attached to your phone, at home? I know I do, so maybe we should keep it like that...

I believe that if you need help, perhaps you should contact a professional, and not your friend who keeps giving you these ghetto ideas. That's just my opinion.

Another opinion is stop what you're doing and go back to school with your student loans, because you're make us Quebecers look like university dropouts who don't know how to install sound systems.

I have a feeling this guy is just screwing around with everyone [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

crack must be cheap in baie-comeau

Guys, it works fine. I have no more problem thanks to my friends advices... do not diss my homie Fabe [img]graemlins/2xblown.gif[/img] . And for crack... it doesnt reach Baie-Comeau [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img] .oh yes the telephone wire is a control for my amp volume (since they are in the box), bought this thing in the states (they have so much gadgets there...) [img]graemlins/wavey.gif[/img]

[ August 18, 2004, 10:30 AM: Message edited by: the bret ]

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Do you have more install pics?
What is your SoundDomain address - I assume you have an SD page because SD is hosting that earlier picture?

yeah lets see some more pics. should be useful for some good creative critisisim and ideas on how to turn the suck down and turn the good up.

yeah im a newbie and i even know more than you

I don't think i've ever seen any install more ghetto than this one. We all make mistakes, but this is just too much. Do yourself a favor and get a professional install. Also, don't the wires coming out of the ports pretty much take away any advantage that a ported box would have? You definately need bigger wires. The wires are going to get hot and melt, probably where you have them running through the car, and short out the amp when the bare metal wire comes in contact with a metal piece of the car. And I thought student loans were for school??? :confused: You obviously know little about installing car audio. You also don't need 2 batteries for pyramid 1,200 watt [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] crap amps I agree ^^^^^^^^ TURN DOWN THE SUCK!! [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]

[ October 07, 2004, 12:31 AM: Message edited by: Drew ]

The wires out of the port arent *that* big of a problem, and he will probably not notice any difference, I know I sure wouldent in a daily driver.

But yeah, just like very other person has said, your friend is a moron. Why would you diss some MTX subs with Pyramid amps. I mean if it was AudioBahn I can understand the Pyramid amps, but it isnt??

TRON FUNKIN BLOWS

You are receiving a lot of criticism. Hopefully you aren't getting bummed out, but the posts are intended for your best interests. We would like to help you out as you get started in car audio. A good start would be changing your gear. Quality is better than quality. While it is cool that you have 4 MTX 15" the fact that you are running them off of a pyramid is not cool. Sell 2 of the 15" and the Pyramid amps and with that money get a quality amp (stick with MTX, you're onto a good brand) Although MTX will not claim near the wattage of your Pyramids, they will ACTUALLY putout more power. And feeding 2 15"s good power will sound better than feeding 4 15"s crap power.

yeah maltese is right. the only thing your do with those pyramid amps running those subs other than having it sound like hot sick ass is kill your subs. sub dont like dirty power and pyramid is about as dirty as the penny hooker that hangs out on hobnob lane. he is right man find a sucker, dump the pyramids and get some real decent power, look in the for sale forum for a good deal, i think yulis got some killer stuff last time i looked. dont get discouraged at all tho we all start with the not so greatest gear and move up from there, my first deck was a jvc shaft stylez man that thing was pimpin haha dual color illumination AND a single preout weee. anyways your off toa good start with the subs, now its time for a good amp.

This may blow someone's mind... but the pyramid amps in question are exactly the same as these http://www.carsound.com/review_archi...vibe1200d.html

Don't even get me started on 'dirty' power... :rolleyes: