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Lord Huggington 04-21-2010 02:02 AM

Lower The Boom.org
 
You're gonna yourself reading this, it's so hipocritical. These reports have hate all throughout, and then say that we're hatefull. Most of us are respectful between the hours of what, 11am-8pm? I drive around Hamilton a lot and in the past 3 years I've heard at the most 4 stereos with major slap, one yeterday. We're now considered petty audio-thugs that have manufacture-lobbyist backing with no respect for the rights of anyone. What the hell is noise-pollution? Don't tell me the government is going to crack down on loud music and not air pollution first, what a joke, what a waste of YOUR money. How is a right infringed when I have the right to listen to music but someone else at the same time has the right to not listen to my music? That's a hipocritical statement that needs earplugs. If you're this concearned about loud music in your area than MOVE. Why would someone think that if a criminals stereo is taken away the crime will stop? This is saying that the "obnoxious thumping" (hipocritical, if you look up the word obnoxious) is "hardly music", well DUH, you're not in the car hearing the higher frequencies, so how can they say that the 20% of the heard reproduction is? Who the fk is anyone to tell me what music is?

It has been documented by the World Health Organization (WHO) and others that boom car noise:

Causes physical damage at the cellular level - not true
Can damage human organs - not true, what?
Induces hearing loss - for most of, I'd say 80% of the stereos not true
Impedes learning and cognitive development processes - not true, what?
Evokes hypertension - not true, what?
Leads to aggressive behavior - not true, agressive behaviour would have already been there.
Causes stress and sleep loss - not true, you are the sole cause of your stress, and sleep loss isn't true when you wake up and go back to bed within 2 minutes, for most people, when they wake up and go back to sleep the brain hasn't entered it's full conscious state, it's still dreaming and the opinion of not having full rest is exactly that.
Leads to depression - music leads to depression?

"This is just another type of drug (call it the acoustic crack of the 21st century and the users are "bass heads") and therefore requires the same kind of scrutiny." - Right, we're crackheads because we like sound quality or loud music.

"You are leery of confronting an offender for fear you might be shot." - maybe if you're in the hood, yeah, but if you went up to someone in a dangerous area and asked them to hault any kind of activity it's possible you could get shot, and that's also what 911 is for if it's classified as an "offence", you're not supposed to take the law into your own hands.

"Your quality of life is going south because you are constantly distracted from your pursuits by that constant NOISE!" - Quality of life? Give me a break, you're fed, you're clothed, you've got a roof over your head, and anything else is a childish complaint. By opinionating quality of life to such a high expectation is absurd when 80% of the planets population is living in poverty.

"Your family and loved ones may be stressed because they see how increasingly frustrated you are and feel helpless to do anything about it." - If you're causing your family frustration that's stemming from yours and you recognize that your family can't help you than the only thing you can do is help yourself, don't put that on your family.

"Boom car operators are often associated with many other types of crimes." - Taking away the loud stereos isn't going to stop any kind of crime. Wouldn't you rather be able to spot out who is be default associated with crime? How can this be said when studies have not been done? For every person that is jailed, are they asked if they own a loud car stereo? Where is the association, is it possible that it's with your stereotypes? Why are stereo fanatics associated with crime when they are completely seperate?

"The aggressive nature of the perpetrators has directly lead to the murders of innocent victims." - on youtube under the username "noboomcars" there is a report of a guy being shot to death by his neighbour for playing loud music from his car, it's a two-way street. This statement doesn't make sence. How can you say that the population is aggressive because of loud music when before the 80s there was way more mass violence and they didn't have loud stereos?

"Boom car noise is a continual offense to homeowners and recreation seekers." - when is the last time you went to a large recreation area and heard slap? Where else besides a large recreation area should we be allowed to enjoy this?

"Boom cars are often used to announce the receipt of a new drug shipment to a neighborhood." - Wouldn't you rather that happen so you can spot out the crime? Drugs will do a lot worse to a community than the moronic announcement of receiving them, which if that weren't a stereotype it'd be a good thing, why is there a complaint? It's like saying "we can't do anything about it", and it's because you don't have grounds for stereotyping.

"Amplified noise was used effectively as a weapon by U.S. forces to defeat General Manuel Noriega." - Noriega surrendered on January 3, 1990. It was not an "effective weapon", it was used to "prevent the use of parabolic microphones to eavesdrop on negotiations taking place within the embassy."

"There is absolutely no redeeming social, spiritual, economic, or ethical value in the emission of repetitious thumping noises and vibrations that can be heard and felt for over a quarter of a mile." - What do you think god is other than a vibration, and a loud one at that? You can feel gods vibration throughout the universe! Music is uber spiritual, and how is redemption not?

"So, is there really a problem with boom cars? Boom car operators don't seem to think so. That is a big problem." - that's like me saying it's a big problem that you don't find photosynthesis a big problem, there isn't one.

"Providing support to victims of audio terrorism" - What, like, earplugs or councelling because you were frustrated and hit your kid because you heard a loud stereo?

"Boom Car Operators: While some of the offenders are merely misguided Generation Y teens whose mothers never gave them an appropriate swat on the butt or else tried to buy their adoration with expensive stereo equipment, they otherwise tend to be thugs, gansters, gangsta wanna-be's, posers and general run-of-the-mill morons. All of them break the law. Most of them love doing it and don't give a rats ass what you have to say about it. We know from law enforcement that boom car operators are all too often associated with other crimes (drugs, concealed weapons, robbery, parole violation, outstanding warrants, gang activity, driving with a suspended license, and a host of other violations and direct links to more serious crimes). It should come as no surprise, since the type of person that would spend thousands of dollars on intentionally upsetting good people, without regard to their rights, is the same type of person who has little regard for law and authority. Much of what we know about boom car operators is provided by the perpetrators themselves. Many, if not most, letters and e-mails they provide are strikingly similar; short-sighted, vituperative, and riddled with errors in both grammar and logic and expound on the same old invalid excuses for their behavior."

If my intention is to listen to loud music than it doesn't include "intentionally upsetting good people", which goes against mens rea, which when improperly judged IS against the law.

WE'RE WANNA-BE MORONIC THUGS, VIVA LA RESISTANCE! :stroke:

fresh1 04-21-2010 08:51 AM

who the hell wrote this? audio terrorist? leads to depression? my mom never whooped my ass? my mom slapped me last night! this is complete nonsense.

fresh1 04-21-2010 09:03 AM

the best part is the murders thing. the report makes it sound like the guy with the stereo got shot. that seems like the fact is wrong. or maybe the whole arguement is flawed?

and lastly,
You are prevented from performing business or personal endeavors (such as listening to your own music) even when you are IN YOUR OWN HOME, WITH YOUR WINDOWS AND DOORS SHUT, AND YOUR HEADPHONES ON!

man, I wanna meet the guy who can do that and hear his system

Nagamitsu 04-21-2010 09:49 AM

LoL! Looks like their forum is really popular too, with about 10 posts. Sorry, but obviously none of what they list is even remotely describing me as a person.

Sinemeup 04-21-2010 11:03 AM

"When the music hits, you feel no pain" - Bob Marley

Father Yuli 04-21-2010 11:37 AM

this is VERY old.

thumpper 04-21-2010 11:51 AM

very old.....

a word to the wise...DO NOT send this Clown any e mails
...I know someone in the US who sent him a color full e mail
and ended up with the FBI knocking on his door ( True Story )


that is one guy who NEEDS to get laid.........................

jstoner22 04-21-2010 01:20 PM

lol, i just perused through the homepage, its hilarious!


my favourite is "audio terrorism"


....the gripe as a whole has merit, but this guys credibility goes right out the window with phrases such as above and making bogus claims such as, "leads to depression, impedes learning, ect."

Lord Huggington 04-21-2010 02:28 PM

YouTube - Man Shot To Death Over Loud Stereo

Denonite 04-22-2010 12:56 PM

Yeah..their last post was in 2007!

JordyO 04-22-2010 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by thumpper (Post 568505)
very old.....

a word to the wise...DO NOT send this Clown any e mails
...I know someone in the US who sent him a color full e mail
and ended up with the FBI knocking on his door ( True Story )


that is one guy who NEEDS to get laid.........................

I think it would be VERY difficult to convince the FBI to come up to Canada and knock on your door :D

Mahna Mahna 04-22-2010 04:56 PM

I totally agree with the original post.

This booming has to stop.
No car should contain any type of subwoofer.
Loud booming cars need to be taken away and scrapped.
SPL contests should be outlawed and the organizers put in jail.

ID subs should be burned in public at the town hall every week.

Now, get off my lawn :cheeky4:

danyman 04-22-2010 05:57 PM

the only thing anoying about the booming cars is the one parked in front of ur house just banging for like 30 mins or anything over 5mins is very anoying. when u park turn it down for respect. when ur driving pump it i dont care. just dont park and crank. ( or i will slash some tires lol )

MikeB. 04-23-2010 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by fresh1 (Post 568479)
who the hell wrote this? audio terrorist? leads to depression? my mom never whooped my ass? my mom slapped me last night! this is complete nonsense.

luv it lol

wvince 04-24-2010 02:35 PM

Wow! I don't even own a gun or drugs AND I drive a boomcar. lol! I've never broke into any building unwanted. I've never purchased drugs or sex from any stranger or street corner. I'm a project leader at my place of employment and feedback says my team likes me and my attitude. Outside of the 1.5 year old running around but naked in my house, I'm the happiest one dwelling there. My wife surely appreciates when I come home and "bring the bacon" after a 12 hour shift. Car audio is a hobby for me. I enjoy working with my hands and like "listening" to the results. :)

I'm confused. Am I still a criminal?

so-hard_it-hz 04-24-2010 04:29 PM

Wow... I was Going to run off on this guy, but then I read the "Message to the Perpetrators" and it made sense. This person just hates themselves and their lives. It is just straight up funny, you should read it.
I must say that I do agree with SOME of what they say because yes, it isn't right for us to sit out front these peoples or even our own house cranking it to 11. And it isn't right to be knockin pictures off the wall in a residential area at 3am on a tuesday. But aside from that, If you're cruising down Lakeshore or other busy streets, Volume=Max. If you're flying down the highway, Volume=Max . If you're in an industrial/wide open country area, Volume=Max.
This person is so naive that they think that the worst thing in the world is to hear Bass booming throughout the land. In my opinion that's much better than constantly hearing Gunfire(like in other parts of the world), knowing with every burst someone could be dying... PLUS they failed to point out the ONLY negative point of having a loud system, You cannot hear Police/Ambulance/Fire Sirens... But if we are good drivers and check our rear view every 3 seconds and side mirrors every 10 like they said back when we got licenses then we can see them.
I think the only way to solve this is go half and half. We can have our "obnoxiously loud stereo systems", only if it they play Classical Music.. Ha, I don't care what they say, they will never stop me from listening to my bass.

*EDIT* . I was searching around and we need to be careful about these people, If enough people fight it, we could end Automotive Modification forever... first off, these people said they have no lives, and they wont have their lives back till the booming stops. THEN they started thanking MERA/SEMA for making America the best place to live (sarcastically). I remember seeing an ad in a Car Audio magazine and it was a SEMA ad saying help save our industry. If we abuse it by banging out everywhere, dropping the air ride and dragging the rear, putting on a huge lift kit and flipping the car due to center of gravity+speed, or anything else, it might just jeopardize our future, and our kids future to have a Custom Car made to their likings. I also hear that the cops are cracking down more on engine modification and other (but still allow stupid HID kits to be installed with halogen bulbs).

Sorry for such a long post.

Spawn-Inc 04-24-2010 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by wvince (Post 569489)
Wow! I don't even own a gun or drugs AND I drive a boomcar. lol! I've never broke into any building unwanted. I've never purchased drugs or sex from any stranger or street corner. I'm a project leader at my place of employment and feedback says my team likes me and my attitude. Outside of the 1.5 year old running around but naked in my house, I'm the happiest one dwelling there. My wife surely appreciates when I come home and "bring the bacon" after a 12 hour shift. Car audio is a hobby for me. I enjoy working with my hands and like "listening" to the results. :)

I'm confused. Am I still a criminal?

well you do have a boom car so you MUST be.

i think i got a bad case of the boom cause after upgrading to what i have now, i will want more boom!

danyman 04-24-2010 05:30 PM

car audio IS a drug lmao. once u start its hard to stop. once u felt it and herd it u want it louder and u want to feel it more and more. darn drug i spent to much money and i have nothing to show hahaha

Bauglir 04-24-2010 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by danyman (Post 569547)
car audio IS a drug lmao. once u start its hard to stop. once u felt it and herd it u want it louder and u want to feel it more and more. darn drug i spent to much money and i have nothing to show hahaha


True enough. I've been without a system since I got a new car 4 months ago, and I've been in withdrawl ever since :ohwell:

Lord Huggington 04-24-2010 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by so-hard_it-hz (Post 569534)
Wow... I was Going to run off on this guy, but then I read the "Message to the Perpetrators" and it made sense. This person just hates themselves and their lives. It is just straight up funny, you should read it.
I must say that I do agree with SOME of what they say because yes, it isn't right for us to sit out front these peoples or even our own house cranking it to 11. And it isn't right to be knockin pictures off the wall in a residential area at 3am on a tuesday. But aside from that, If you're cruising down Lakeshore or other busy streets, Volume=Max. If you're flying down the highway, Volume=Max . If you're in an industrial/wide open country area, Volume=Max.
This person is so naive that they think that the worst thing in the world is to hear Bass booming throughout the land. In my opinion that's much better than constantly hearing Gunfire(like in other parts of the world), knowing with every burst someone could be dying... PLUS they failed to point out the ONLY negative point of having a loud system, You cannot hear Police/Ambulance/Fire Sirens... But if we are good drivers and check our rear view every 3 seconds and side mirrors every 10 like they said back when we got licenses then we can see them.
I think the only way to solve this is go half and half. We can have our "obnoxiously loud stereo systems", only if it they play Classical Music.. Ha, I don't care what they say, they will never stop me from listening to my bass.

*EDIT* . I was searching around and we need to be careful about these people, If enough people fight it, we could end Automotive Modification forever... first off, these people said they have no lives, and they wont have their lives back till the booming stops. THEN they started thanking MERA/SEMA for making America the best place to live (sarcastically). I remember seeing an ad in a Car Audio magazine and it was a SEMA ad saying help save our industry. If we abuse it by banging out everywhere, dropping the air ride and dragging the rear, putting on a huge lift kit and flipping the car due to center of gravity+speed, or anything else, it might just jeopardize our future, and our kids future to have a Custom Car made to their likings. I also hear that the cops are cracking down more on engine modification and other (but still allow stupid HID kits to be installed with halogen bulbs).

Sorry for such a long post.

Well said, and I think we all agree. I wouldn't mind a law stating a 10am-8pm curfew with only up to $50 fines.

"Having a typical adolescent mindset, you refuse to hear what you don't want to listen to, regardless of its value or accuracy. You normally try to find the least little crack (perceived or otherwise) in a statement and argue it to death just to be right, and miss the entire point in the process."

Then later...

"The DC sniper had the right to own and use a gun. His rights ended where the lives of others were affected. He abused his rights."

I think this person missed the entire point in the process by comparing us to the DC sniper, what a moron. I'm not going to worry, car audio isn't going anywhere, but if it's abused than we'll have tough penalties for the casual listener and that's wrong. Like imagine getting points off your licence for 130db.

danyman 04-24-2010 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Bauglir (Post 569616)
True enough. I've been without a system since I got a new car 4 months ago, and I've been in withdrawl ever since :ohwell:

had stock system in my new car for a week and swap stuff out lmao. and the car is only a month old hahahaah isnt this terrible

danyman 04-24-2010 09:42 PM

ohh btw car audio isnt the most loudest things on the streets that affect ppl according to me.. its the whole world. all the cherry bomb pipes on those retard civic going 60kph on first gear lmao. the semi trucks with the 10" stacks that rumbles loud down the road. that god darn horn that does like 150dbs on those trains when they honk. every motor vehicle is anoying period. go in the bush 100miles away and all u hear is wind in the trees.mmmmmm love that. but we just cant and no one can stop noise without shutting off all vehicles on and off the road.

ppl who are annoyed by us "boom cars" needs to get a life and stop point just at us. these are ppl that are narrow minded and want it only theyre way and just dont see the big picture. its not just us. its the world that we live in... its the future. its loud and wont get any better. want better go live in nunavut lmao

Bauglir 04-24-2010 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by danyman (Post 569631)
had stock system in my new car for a week and swap stuff out lmao. and the car is only a month old hahahaah isnt this terrible

I need to get on it, but I gotta admit, I've been pure lazy. Works been hectic lately, so when I come home I just sit down and veg.

I gotta admit though, my car has potential. I got a 2000 altima. The front speakers actually sound pretty good, but the back speakers suck balls, I need to find the time to put my jbl's back there. I doubt my two 12's would fit in my trunk, so I'm saving the dough to put a 12" dcon back there. I feel so empty without the boom though. (Gotta feel them good vibrations).

Lord Huggington 04-24-2010 11:34 PM

Rap being the most listened to genre in car audio, look at how many old people hear it and start hating, like it wasn't what they went through with their parents from satans rock and/or roll. I havn't had a system since my car was stolen in August 2007 :eyes:.

Bauglir 04-25-2010 12:10 AM

Sorry to hear your car was stolen, thieves suck. If I had my ideal budget system, I'd be blasting Alice in Chains and Hank Williams the third right now.


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