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Old 06-30-2011, 07:56 PM
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Measuring amp output for watts RMS

I am trying to measure the output of my amps and and getting very very low watts output. I read the way to do it was to meter the speaker outputs to get your volts AC and multiplay that by 10 then divide by your impedance. So... I get a maximum of 8 volts AC from the leads x 10 = 80volts / 4ohms = 20watts and that's divided by 2 i take it since it's going to left and right speakers. Shouldn't I be getting a considerable amount more (at 14.4dc volts since the car is running during tests) considering I am using an alpine 4 chan amp when bridged should do 100rms per channel? am I doing something wrong here?



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Originally Posted by 87Accord
I am trying to measure the output of my amps and and getting very very low watts output. I read the way to do it was to meter the speaker outputs to get your volts AC and multiplay that by 10 then divide by your impedance. So... I get a maximum of 8 volts AC from the leads x 10 = 80volts / 4ohms = 20watts and that's divided by 2 i take it since it's going to left and right speakers. Shouldn't I be getting a considerable amount more (at 14.4dc volts since the car is running during tests) considering I am using an alpine 4 chan amp when bridged should do 100rms per channel? am I doing something wrong here?



P = V^2 / R

(8*8) / 4 = 16watts

There is something wrong with your measurements or your system tuning.
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:47 PM
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regardless 16 watts is what a hu put's out.. should be getting much more with this alpine mrpf200 4chan bridged to 2... no? got gains to a hair over 3/4 w/o clipping
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what frequency are you playing?
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I'm just playing pink noise as I was told it was better than a test tone. Was I misinformed again..?
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 87Accord
regardless 16 watts is what a hu put's out.. should be getting much more with this alpine mrpf200 4chan bridged to 2... no? got gains to a hair over 3/4 w/o clipping
Maybe. That amp maybe puts out 30x4 on a good day. And at that you are just 3db over deck power. I like Alpine but have never thought much of the MRP line.
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Originally Posted by 87Accord
I'm just playing pink noise as I was told it was better than a test tone. Was I misinformed again..?
Yes, you should be using a 60 Hz sine wave for power testing. Some cheap meters only work at 60 Hz (+/- a bit) on the AC range so high frequency is out of the question. Pink noise is a broad spectrum signal and wont give you any meaningful measurement with a multimeter.

You only want to find the maximum voltage your amp can sustain without clipping a sine wave program. You can just listen for clipping and turn the volume back down a bit when you hear it. Should be accurate enough for what you want to know. Do you have a 60 Hz test program?
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what speakers are you testing? if you are bridging a 4 channel amp I assume you are using it to drive full range main speakers? If you use 60 hz that may be lower than your High Pass setting, plus may bottom out your speakers. I would rather use 200 hz or more and keep a listen for bottoming and clipping. Make sure your high pass is set under 100Hz. Most modern DVMs are pretty flat out to a kHz or more in the AC Volts setting.
why are you trying to measure output power? do you suspect something is wrong? Does it not play loud? Most amps work or dont work. If it sounds good at normal levels (just a couple of watts) but not good at higher it is usually the speakers or the power cabling.
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what speakers are you testing? if you are bridging a 4 channel amp I assume you are using it to drive full range main speakers? If you use 60 hz that may be lower than your High Pass setting, plus may bottom out your speakers. I would rather use 200 hz or more and keep a listen for bottoming and clipping. Make sure your high pass is set under 100Hz. Most modern DVMs are pretty flat out to a kHz or more in the AC Volts setting.
why are you trying to measure output power? do you suspect something is wrong? Does it not play loud? Most amps work or dont work. If it sounds good at normal levels (just a couple of watts) but not good at higher it is usually the speakers or the power cabling.
Good point Zoomer, I should have said to disconnect the speakers when testing and disable any signal processing. You would need some other way to detect clipping though.
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Good point Zoomer, I should have said to disconnect the speakers when testing and disable any signal processing. You would need some other way to detect clipping though.
disconnect the speakers? Then you have no load for the amp to power and all you are doing is measuring open circuit voltage.

The basic question remains why do you want to measure amp power output? do you have any reason to doubt its performance?
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