Hi guys

i am planning to get a set of 6 x9 and a set of 6.5"

is it a good idea to have one brand for 6 x9 and another brand for 6.5 ???

i am planning to get a pair of Nakamichi for 6x9 and a pair of focal access for 6.5" is it a good idea ?? or i should just stick with one brand all the way ???

thanks

George believes that mixing brands can sometimes be a bad thing as the sensitivity will be different and this can cause major problems.

so your telling me that if I have a pair of blaupunkt 6x9's in the rear of my car and a pair of say pioneer 5 1/4's in the front dash it isnt a good idea that i have to get the same brand for up front as the rear?

George believes that one should never buy Blaupunkt.

george is right about Blaupunk but as far as mixing speakers, I dont see any issues...

If you want to match, thats cool, but some people just dont care about that.

I would say try to avoid the 6x9's in general, but some will also argue against that.

I would try to get the fronts put in first, then see if you really want/need the 6x 9's, usually you'll find front stage and rear sub(s) more than enough overall


PS- I have a set of the Focal Access from a couple years ago that I still run...I am VERY happy with them. For the money the y cost, I dont think any comps would match up, in my opinion...VERY Nice little set

The advantage to buying one brand of speakers is that they are 'voiced' the same (hopefully) which means they will sound similar if not identical.

Although not common, by mixing brands you could end up with an odd sound kind of like a pair of singers who do not harmonize well but sound fine when solo. Theoretically, the 4" and the 6.5" or 6x9 from the same line of speakers should all sound the same in the mid and highs and the only difference being the amount of midbass delivered.

hey guys.

the reason why i am considering a different 6 x 9 is because the access's frequency is 50hz - 18khz, compare to naka's 40hz - 20khz. BUT i've always quoted from others saying that Focal's measurement is always a bit conservative. if that's the case then i guess i will get everything Access.

;)

My Blaupunkt gear seems to be working great for me. Everyone has a preference, hell some people even live and die by Sony products lol Blaupunkt is not crap at least the set I have aren't

George, I appreciate it if you would elaborate on these mundane statements....

I have ran blau in my past and put it in my friend's cars and trucks, etc. It has worked fine for them and it has worked fine for me.

When you speak, be sure to be back it up.

[ March 14, 2004, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: Zach ]

George, I appreciate if you would elaborate on these mundane statements....

I have ran blau in my past and put it in my friend's cars and trucks, etc. It has worked fine for them and it has worked fine for me.

When you speak, be sure to be back it up. </font>[/QUOTE]Amen how about some examples or reasons why George

well I was going to just stay out of this all together but here goes. Blaupunkt I great gear, Maybe years ago they were lacking in a lot of departments but now the KICK A$$. Look at there overdrive stuff. It is all neo so the 6x9 have a 2 inch mounting depth. They will slay many "HIGH" end co-axials that are in the price class above. and the Overdrive flat subwoofers are awesoem for the price also. Dont knock what you dont know. Just my opinion.

So true, uhm Ty? lol

George never said the Blaupunkrap would not work, George said it was not good, meaning good SQ. George also doesn't like Sony to much.

George thinks people who buy Blaupunkt, Pyramid, Audiobahn, and Legacy need some self medication.

George's crap is getting annoying.

George believes that his crap is no where near as annoying as that picture you have is.

well that picture is me, with my face being squished. atleast i have the balls to show my face, instead of posting useless crap around the board with some fake name.

Georges name was given to him by his mother. Some might say how useless your crap is around the boards as well, but George will not say that.

George wishes you a good night Mr. Squishy face.

George never said the Blaupunkrap would not work, George said it was not good, meaning good SQ. George also doesn't like Sony to much.

George thinks people who buy Blaupunkt, Pyramid, Audiobahn, and Legacy need some self medication. </font>[/QUOTE]90% install 10% equipment.....
You can get good results with any brand mentioned above..remember, its how you install it Georgey Porgey.....

[ March 15, 2004, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: Zach ]

George never said the Blaupunkrap would not work, George said it was not good, meaning good SQ. George also doesn't like Sony to much.

George thinks people who buy Blaupunkt, Pyramid, Audiobahn, and Legacy need some self medication. </font>[/QUOTE]Boomin thinks that george should try it before he tries to knock it, because Zach is right 90% & 10% [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] And SQ It sounds pretty damn amazing to me in my car so I dunno maybe I got a really good pair? [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

btw on to the actual thread my question never got answered. If I run two blaupunkt 6x9's in the rear is it best to get the same brand up front for 5 1/4's or w/e? :confused:

[ March 15, 2004, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: boominZ24 ]

it doesnt really matter if they're the same brand, just look for a pair of speakers that you like, and think sound good [img]smile.gif[/img]

figured, its just the in the beginning of this thread it looked like its not a good idea. Yet I see people do it all the time [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] but thanks [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

yep, when people use the same rand, it's usually because they want them to match in appearance, or they have good experience with the one part from that manufacturer that they've already got, so they turn to them for more. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Also,
Like was previously mentioned, some speaker manufacturers' 'voice' their speakers different, so that a speaker from brand A may sound a tad bit different than a speaker from brand B...IE more 'tinny' or more 'sharp' , etc, depending on the materials used, etc...

Though I dont know if this would affect the 'average' listener...but then I am assuming you are above-average, Boomin [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I, like Bigmike, say go with whatever you like, and can afford/find/ etc...

cheers

Every manufacturer is unique to their sound. Kenwood does not sound like Pioneer does not sound like Infinity does not sound like Alpine does not sound like, well you should get the point.....

Respectable speakers vendors spend considerable R&D dollars making sure their packaged drivers are compatible whether a good coaxial, component set, or whatever. Ask any respectable SQ fan who has compiled a multibrand front stage about the importance of voicing. There's a 4page post in the SQ section just about tweeters. It's important.

Will you achieve terrible sound if you buy Brand X instead of Brand Y when you have Brand A in there already? Probably not. Will it sound as good as it could? Probably not.

Maybe I am taking the purist's point of view and maybe if you are running $79 coaxials that the difference will be minimized since you may not listen critically anyway but if one can match brands for similar dollars then it is usually a good idea.. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

Well I hope to be building a whole new system in my new car in the future, it'll probably be a mix since I cant afford all of alpines gear lol But yah my next car is gonna have to be one to last awhile cuz thats where the moneys goin. To start with I have a pair of 10" Alpine Type R's, Pair of Blaupunkt 6x9's, and a Kenwood KDC 217s deck but im almost positive im gonna be getting an mp3 deck for the new vehicle. When I get the new vehicle or close to it the deck and my RF gear is on the market to be sold. I havent decided whether or not i wanna keep the Punch 200s yet. But do u see what i mean as for mixing gear? Alpine subs, different brand amp or amps, blaupunkt 6x9's, probably pioneer 5 1/4's dunno if I'll do tweeters. Etc. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] overall what do u think? I've a big summer plan ahead of me hopefully all goes to plan money wise lol

Dunno when im gettin started but I'll start with the subwoofers, deck and install of 6x9's. Then I'll be faced with Osap repayment and car payments. Hopefully I can get the alpine gear installed in a vehicle and compete this summer :D

[ March 15, 2004, 05:04 PM: Message edited by: boominZ24 ]

hmmm I dunno lol I just like to feel the music :D but I cant stand distortion lol So Im Loudness and SQ at the same time if that makes any sense? Like I like it loud and love to feel it but if it sounds like crap or is distorting its crap to me lol

SQL baby!!

I got some alpine 5.25s and some fusion 5.25 mids i might sell if your interested teri;)

So don't sit in pauls truck:P

I prefer SQ over spl any day, but i do have my spl moments.

Dukks got it, from a SQ point of view you can mix and match... but it is easier to stick with one manufacturer. If you have time and money you can experiment, but otherwise fail cheep and smart with a single manufacturer.

basicaly if you spens like 200$ on front stage, dont go and spend 50$ on the back.. ull notice the difference. spend about the same. obviously the comps ur puttin up front are gonna cost more more than the 2/3-ways in the back cause of the x-over.

hard to explain but basicaly dont buy crap for the back unless ur buyin crap for the front.

basicaly if you spens like 200$ on front stage, dont go and spend 50$ on the back.. ull notice the difference. spend about the same. obviously the comps ur puttin up front are gonna cost more more than the 2/3-ways in the back cause of the x-over.

hard to explain but basicaly dont buy crap for the back unless ur buyin crap for the front.

alright, in the car i have now I bought new rears becuz I dont use the front speakers much and I thought i blew them not to mention that when I got the deck I knew I was gonna blow them regardless and all i could afford was $200 for a pair of 6x9s

There is a little thing called tone and timbre matching that most people do not ever consider. Then there is the issue of why bother having rear speakers. Or the issue of yes you can have rear speakers but they don't need to be like the front. Or they can be whatever you like. It is a lot of personal preference and it will really depend on your budget, what you prefer and what you want.
For the record, Blaupunkt is the second oldest manufacturer in car audio today (soon to be the first if they already are not) and have made some incredible products over the years and will continue to do so today and in the future. Too bad some of the other maufactures did not have the access to capital like the Blue dot group of companies does.

SQ and Blaupunkt don't go together, Blaupunkt and Distortion do however.

Well George, I beg to differ, a good installer can make even the worst of equipment sound good. Blaupunkt has made some stunning equipment over the years, they have also had their share of failures as well and it seems that this is where your impression has come from.

Sorta like you and useless statements.

So other speakers such as focal will not distort no matter what? Only Blaupunkt is victim of the distortion fairy?

Hmm.. I have a pair of Blaupunkt 6x9's... that sound great... I hear NO distortion... hmmm [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] maybe I got lucky with this pair? lol [img]graemlins/2xblown.gif[/img] Knock what you've tried bud

YOU KNOW THE DISTORTION FAIRY? Send me her address, have I got a bone to pick with her.

I'm not done with her yet. ;)

George agrees that any installer can make something sound good, but George also knows that you can't always make it sound great. George knows that Blaupunkt was the cats behind a 13 years ago, but since then it has been surpased by dozens of companies. George knows that no matter how good Blaupunkt makes product now, the last 8 years of crap will make it hard to ever get a good name back.

George knows this and he doesn't even have to wear a stupid mask.