Need Advise on system for new car
03-10-2013, 10:49 AM
#11
I can't compare the audison to the r/f 360.3 havent had any experience with it (I have to do some reading up as well), but I can tell you that in terms of dsp's the audison is ahead of audio control and alpine. You can also look at the JBL-MS8.
If you can give me a budget for front stage, rear stage and sub stage, I would be better able to recommend you with your budget in mind. Running passive would be more econimical and simple.
A lot of people don't spend money on the rears, they leave it stock and run it off hu power just for ambiance, some dont use it at all, and concentrate on a solid front and sub stage.
In your case, a nice 3 way passive with a 2 ch amp and treated doors would be good for the front, rears stock off hu power, and sub stage. A good amp for this is WoofersEtc.com - XDi 803 - Arc Audio 3-Channel Car Amplifier
If you can give me a budget for front stage, rear stage and sub stage, I would be better able to recommend you with your budget in mind. Running passive would be more econimical and simple.
A lot of people don't spend money on the rears, they leave it stock and run it off hu power just for ambiance, some dont use it at all, and concentrate on a solid front and sub stage.
In your case, a nice 3 way passive with a 2 ch amp and treated doors would be good for the front, rears stock off hu power, and sub stage. A good amp for this is WoofersEtc.com - XDi 803 - Arc Audio 3-Channel Car Amplifier
03-10-2013, 11:00 AM
#12
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Yea when I used to compete I only ran front stage. At this point, i have rear passengers, plus i take my baby in the car sometimes and he falls asleep to music, so I need sound in back.
I like to run the rears off an amp so that I have better control over the rear speaker volume. The factory setup has rear components in the doors, and the tweeters are high, like right behind the head of the front seat passengers. This is why I want to do coaxials in the back, move that tweeter down.
For total budget, if i did it all at once, it would be around $3k. I would rather do it in stages, to give me a higher budget (the wife would notice if I spent more at once), so for stage 1 I was thinking DSP, 4 channel amp, and front stage. Stage 2, sub amp and sub, stage 3 is rear speakers. obviously rear speakers are not priority but I want them there eventually. Sub would be nice, but a decent 3-way will get the job done way better than what I have now.
So for stage 1, my budget is like $3-400 for DSP, $500-1000 for 4 channel amp, and ~$1000 for front speakers. Wiring i know is a good $3-500.
I like to run the rears off an amp so that I have better control over the rear speaker volume. The factory setup has rear components in the doors, and the tweeters are high, like right behind the head of the front seat passengers. This is why I want to do coaxials in the back, move that tweeter down.
For total budget, if i did it all at once, it would be around $3k. I would rather do it in stages, to give me a higher budget (the wife would notice if I spent more at once), so for stage 1 I was thinking DSP, 4 channel amp, and front stage. Stage 2, sub amp and sub, stage 3 is rear speakers. obviously rear speakers are not priority but I want them there eventually. Sub would be nice, but a decent 3-way will get the job done way better than what I have now.
So for stage 1, my budget is like $3-400 for DSP, $500-1000 for 4 channel amp, and ~$1000 for front speakers. Wiring i know is a good $3-500.
03-12-2013, 07:47 AM
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03-12-2013, 10:18 AM
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what is minidsp?
so im thinking that if i get the Mcintosh 4 channel I will use 2 channels to power the tweeters and mids, then run the woofers off the "rear" channels. Then I will leave the factory rear speakers connected to the stock stereo and faded out unless they are needed. Thoughts? Opinions? only other options is if i get components that allow dual amplification, which i havnt seen recently on components.
so im thinking that if i get the Mcintosh 4 channel I will use 2 channels to power the tweeters and mids, then run the woofers off the "rear" channels. Then I will leave the factory rear speakers connected to the stock stereo and faded out unless they are needed. Thoughts? Opinions? only other options is if i get components that allow dual amplification, which i havnt seen recently on components.
03-12-2013, 10:53 AM
#18
Minidsp I a affordable way to put together a dsp according to your needs (2 ,3 or 4 way crossover and equalizer), I havent played around with it, but the reviews are good.
I havent seen a component set that allows for triple amplification, dual amplification yes, but it's limited.
I think, what would work good in your setup would be a good 4 ch, 2 channel to run the 3 way comp in front, use stock hu to power the rears (faded as you mention), and the second set of ch bridged to run your subwoofer.
I havent seen a component set that allows for triple amplification, dual amplification yes, but it's limited.
I think, what would work good in your setup would be a good 4 ch, 2 channel to run the 3 way comp in front, use stock hu to power the rears (faded as you mention), and the second set of ch bridged to run your subwoofer.
03-12-2013, 11:53 AM
#20
Front stage: Hybrid Audio Technologies, there is a reason why Scott Buwalda has dominated the SQ class last year.
Hybrid Audio Technologies - 12v Electronics
DSP: JBL MS-8, able to hook up 8 speakers, 4 pairs of RCA's, really nice unit and for $400 its the cheapest. Have a look at the manual so you can see the features.
http://be.jbl.com/tl_files/catalog//...s%20Manual.pdf
4channel: With your price range it is going to be hard to find a fault with any of those amps mentioned. Top of the class IMO are: Brax, Zapco, Mcintosh, Helix, ZED and Audison.
Hybrid Audio Technologies - 12v Electronics
DSP: JBL MS-8, able to hook up 8 speakers, 4 pairs of RCA's, really nice unit and for $400 its the cheapest. Have a look at the manual so you can see the features.
http://be.jbl.com/tl_files/catalog//...s%20Manual.pdf
4channel: With your price range it is going to be hard to find a fault with any of those amps mentioned. Top of the class IMO are: Brax, Zapco, Mcintosh, Helix, ZED and Audison.
