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Old 04-08-2006, 01:42 AM
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all right i dont know alot about car audio but ive been reading and all trying to learn more. anyways i got a 1973 Dodge Dart Swinger http://www.seriouswheels.com/1970-19...rt-Swinger.htm
for those who dont know what it looks like anyways i guess that i would put my subs in my trunk and im just wondering what would be a good package to get (amp and subs) i dont really know how much i want to spend i want something thats fairly good i guess for a good price i live in BC in the burnaby area

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Old 04-08-2006, 10:37 AM
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What exactly do you want as far as sound goes? You want it loud or do you want sound quality... or a little balanced of both? Do you need to have room in your trunk after you put subs in? And finally you can get a pretty good setup for not too high a price. But, you do kind of have to know how much you're willing to spend.
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Old 04-08-2006, 11:34 AM
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i guess for sound i want a bit of both i want it loud but i want it to sound good as well. i dont really need alot room in my trunk and its huge anyway like most old cars are as for money im thinkin maybe around $700
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:36 PM
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i have been lookin at more subs and amps and i found a few just wondering if they are any good and and if the price is good


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Old 04-08-2006, 04:46 PM
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Rockford, Alpine and Kicker all make very nice stuff. If you just want a nice extra punch to your music getting a a single 10 or 12 Inch subwoofer and amp from one of those brands will be perfect. If you want speakers for your car as well, you could look for a whole package deal from a website as well.
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I have run cars with the fronts and rears powered by the deck, as well as with 4 channel amps. I say it makes a world of difference. If you are going to lay down the cash, make the effort, I highly recommend adding a 4 channel amp for the fronts and rears. The fronts will be the most important and I suggest components. That is the only way you will get real stereo image and not have the highs hidden down in the doors. Also, any 12 inch sub or dual 10s will proper amp will easily overpower front and rears powered by deck only. You will tend to raise the volume and the deck will distort and blow your speakers.
Also try to stay away from low end speakers from the big companies like Pioneer, clarion, panasonic, kenwood, sony etc.They make some real bad stuff. The TSD Kevlar line would be the minimum from Pioneer. The Alpine type S component or coax with the silk dome tweeters are very nice also. Stay away from the old type S coax unless it is for rear only. Polk DB and Momo component works well also and is not too expensive. Infinity reference and Kappa are OK too and are often very cheap on ebay. There are many more good quality speakers out there also. Keep away from most 3 way and 4 way coax. It is just a marketing gimmick. (except for example the Polk 6x9 3 ways that use 2 silk dome tweeters.)

Before you buy anything, check out what kind of speakers will fit! Bring it to a good small shop that specializes in car audio. They will open the doors and see what fits and you can make a decision to find a speaker that fits, or do some custome cutout work to make the car fit the speaker. Most big box stores and auto glass repair garages just want fast installs and will not take the time to sweat the details.
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BTW that add with the Alpine gear: The type S is last years model, the Sub is the low end type E.
Keep in mind that adds like this are ONLY intended to flash some great deal under a target price to get you into the store.
If you cannot affort everything at once, I suggest planning aheat and buying only a bit at a time. For example:
1: Get sub and amp and deck. Make sure deck has coax outputs.
2: add front component speakers
3: add 4 channel amp, but drive rears off deck.
4: add rear speakres.

There are several variations of this theme. I am sure you will get other opinions.
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Old 04-09-2006, 12:46 AM
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yeah sorry i dont im kinda a newb when it comes to car audio so some of the more technical stuff didnt make sense but i probably wont put speakers in the front of my car as its and old car and there are only speakers in the back and no where to put them in the front. It has some speakers that the previous owner put in it in the back not sure what kind they are though.

also i may be able to get some Alpine subs fairly cheap as one of my buddies knows a guy who can get me a deal. i let you know when i find out
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Think of home audio. Where are the main speakers? In front! With speakers in back plus subwoofers all you will get is big boom. Think really seriously about what you want. Go to a dealer and ask them to listen to a car with the fading set to rear only, and then fade to front. You will hear a world of difference.
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^ He has what is quickly becoming a valuable car. I wouldn't be suggesting more holes in it than are already there. Plus, and forgive me chrome38 if I am wrong here, but he's a 'car guy' and not so much a 'stereo guy' so ultimate staging and imaging are likely low on the priority list. Since I started hanging around with a few more 'car guys' I can see where they are coming from. The stereo is an accessory, like the wheels or a nice set of pipes.

Man, I would find a pair of 10s, a pair of 6x9s, and a 4channel amp. IF you want some front speakers in the future then you have to decide if you want holes or if you want to spend some money for creative (and more expensive) speaker install.
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