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Old 11-23-2008, 02:58 PM
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new benz need clear BASS

K, so what would you guys think would be the best setup ( 1 12" sub, amp, sub box, amp/sub wiring, capacitor ( do i need one?)) I got a 2009 c300 benz with harmon kardon speakers . I want my budget to be $1000 or under including everything. I would like a mix of SQ and SPL. Space does not matter and i don't want it to rattle to much but want to turn heads. ( my knowledge for subs/amps is not that great so ya lol )
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Dont forget you will need a line adapter, and a good one will set you back at least $200, cause you may want to have some sort of control over your substage. That leaves you with $800. Is that including labour. If it is, it doesnt leave much money for the rest. And you drive a prestigious vehicle. It would be highly unappropriate to run Pyramid type gear in a ride like that. I would suggest jacking up the budget a bit to Benz standards, and take pride in your ownership.
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Yea i agree with sasha , your going to have to bump up your budget or else you wont get what you want , you can but of a lesser quality. German cars are hard to deal with and people would charge you more just by taking a look at your car. I have a M5 i asked this guy to change my components and without even looking he said $320 for all tweeters and speakers !!!

But if you want SPL and SQ go with Image Dynamics there subs are great. Very Good SQ and tend to get loud. But they will cost you because your driving a Benz not a Geo lol. By the way be sure not to get jacked when you install your system , lived in surrey for 3 years and car audio gets jacked pretty quick. I wouldnt want to get loud if i still lived there LOL.
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:22 PM
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Dont forget you will need a line adapter, and a good one will set you back at least $200, cause you may want to have some sort of control over your substage. That leaves you with $800. Is that including labour. If it is, it doesnt leave much money for the rest. And you drive a prestigious vehicle. It would be highly unappropriate to run Pyramid type gear in a ride like that. I would suggest jacking up the budget a bit to Benz standards, and take pride in your ownership.
No im not including labour, but if i have to i will increase my budget.
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:25 PM
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Yea i agree with sasha , your going to have to bump up your budget or else you wont get what you want , you can but of a lesser quality. German cars are hard to deal with and people would charge you more just by taking a look at your car. I have a M5 i asked this guy to change my components and without even looking he said $320 for all tweeters and speakers !!!

But if you want SPL and SQ go with Image Dynamics there subs are great. Very Good SQ and tend to get loud. But they will cost you because your driving a Benz not a Geo lol. By the way be sure not to get jacked when you install your system , lived in surrey for 3 years and car audio gets jacked pretty quick. I wouldnt want to get loud if i still lived there LOL.
HAhaha good old surrey its still the same but i doubt some will try jacking me and if they did i would found out in one day who did
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HAhaha good old surrey its still the same but i doubt some will try jacking me and if they did i would found out in one day who did
LOL , miss surrey though.

You will have to spend more then $1000. I planned on spending $1500 and it took me to $2200. By the way do the rear seats come down on your car , or is it a heat sink like my b**** car ?
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LOL , miss surrey though.

You will have to spend more then $1000. I planned on spending $1500 and it took me to $2200. By the way do the rear seats come down on your car , or is it a heat sink like my b**** car ?
Ya i no i will end up spending more than a grand, The rear seats come down
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Well, you say space is no issue, then I would suggest getting a single 15" sub in a box. I think you can afford to get something like a JBL GTI sub and a box, but I am sure people will throw in bunch of other gear. Take your pick. As far as the amp is concerned it is pretty hard to beat a Sundown 1200D or 1500D for the money. User Smartass is a dealer here for them. No need for a cap, just do proper wiring.
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Nothing from Surrey comes in my bedroom.... reminds me of Rutland as well.....not good...

I would not do a 15" in there at all, way to big of a gap between the next size speaker in his car. A 12" can and will play the same deep bass note as a 12" can and if it is the proper 12", then it could even play it louder. I would go the route of a high output 12" in a slot port box. Fire the sub at the back of the car. Bass response is all about the careful matching of sub to box primarily. Screw up on either one and the results will not be what you are hoping for. Your vehicle is a tank as compared to the cars on the roads today, this is why I would look at a solid performer with a highly predictable outcome.

You will definitely need a interface adaptor, it is the go between from the factory stereo to the amplifier. It will make or break the system and it's level of performance. Purchasing the correct one will also allow you the opportunity to expand in the future should you like. As pointed out above, the proper interface is also going to allow you to control the bass response independent of the rest of the system. It adds a dash mountable (in a knockout panel or other area) control **** to adjust the bass response. Audio Control makes a great interface adaptor in the LC7.

From there, you do not need tons of power, just the right sub and the right box for it. Too many kids are hung up on the I need 2000watts of power so I can light my hair on fire and rip the bra off the girl in the passenger seat. From your post what I summise is that you are comfortable with the tonal response of the system, save for the bass. You want a good amount of bass response if needed yet able to blend with the balance of the system and not overpower it.

I would look at the Digital Designs DD2512 and the Pioneer Premiere PRSD1200M. This is a perfect match of power to the sub and is enough to get you noticably loud.

The DD sub in the proper slot port box is magic, that is all there is to it. Loud if needed and tonally responsive. It will blend with your factory system. I can build the box here for you, and ship the whole works across on the bus, it might even be there the same day. It is one of the last hand crafted US built speakers in production. Here are some links from the manufacturer sites.


Pioneer of Canada - English - PRS Series
DDAudio Digital Designs Speakers Made in the USA
Line Output Converter with Auxiliary Input - LC7

If this interests you or you want to learn more, drop me a pm or msn to [email protected]. I work tonight at the pub from 9-4am so I will not be around until later tomorrow afternoon and for a little while longer tonight.
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Nothing from Surrey comes in my bedroom.... reminds me of Rutland as well.....not good...

I would not do a 15" in there at all, way to big of a gap between the next size speaker in his car. A 12" can and will play the same deep bass note as a 12" can and if it is the proper 12", then it could even play it louder. I would go the route of a high output 12" in a slot port box. Fire the sub at the back of the car. Bass response is all about the careful matching of sub to box primarily. Screw up on either one and the results will not be what you are hoping for. Your vehicle is a tank as compared to the cars on the roads today, this is why I would look at a solid performer with a highly predictable outcome.

You will definitely need a interface adaptor, it is the go between from the factory stereo to the amplifier. It will make or break the system and it's level of performance. Purchasing the correct one will also allow you the opportunity to expand in the future should you like. As pointed out above, the proper interface is also going to allow you to control the bass response independent of the rest of the system. It adds a dash mountable (in a knockout panel or other area) control **** to adjust the bass response. Audio Control makes a great interface adaptor in the LC7.

From there, you do not need tons of power, just the right sub and the right box for it. Too many kids are hung up on the I need 2000watts of power so I can light my hair on fire and rip the bra off the girl in the passenger seat. From your post what I summise is that you are comfortable with the tonal response of the system, save for the bass. You want a good amount of bass response if needed yet able to blend with the balance of the system and not overpower it.

I would look at the Digital Designs DD2512 and the Pioneer Premiere PRSD1200M. This is a perfect match of power to the sub and is enough to get you noticably loud.

The DD sub in the proper slot port box is magic, that is all there is to it. Loud if needed and tonally responsive. It will blend with your factory system. I can build the box here for you, and ship the whole works across on the bus, it might even be there the same day. It is one of the last hand crafted US built speakers in production. Here are some links from the manufacturer sites.



If this interests you or you want to learn more, drop me a pm or msn to [email protected]. I work tonight at the pub from 9-4am so I will not be around until later tomorrow afternoon and for a little while longer tonight.
How much do the DD2512 and LC7 run for? The pioneer amp is pretty pricey how about the Audioque 1200D the price is nicer and heard its a great amp.

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