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06-11-2003, 10:48 PM
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Well, howdy... You guys can refer to me as Zigg'
I live just outside Toronto Ontario and its time I get some answers to my damn questions... I hear different things for different people, so I need to settle this now!!
I have a low end head unit, with 2 outs on the back (im going to upgrade cause I'm getting a second amp for my highs and will need 4 outs at that point) Anways, before I connected my amp/subs to my head unit I first had my 6.5" and 6 x 9's installed in my car, when I cranked it my ears felt like they were going to bleed... Now, once I plugged the RCA's into the back of the head unit I lost 3/4 of all the sound... I don't get much from my highs unless I crank that **** to 31, where as before I could put it to 26 or 27 and have more sound then before I plugged in the RCA's. I think my head unit is only a 1.8 volt and I know they make then to like 8 volts now. Would low voltage head unit be the cause of loss of sound from my highs? Outside of my high's I think that maybe (logically thinking) I have lost tonnes of bass which may also be effected by this, I'm not sure how much loss in sound I have from that angle too. Is a head unit something that should be a pricey investment? Is it crutial to get a good one or else you won't get anything out of your stereo?
I have 2x12" Audio Bahn's being run by a 1000 Watt Kenwood KAC 929, and Sony Explodes in the front and rear for my highs being run by the 45x4 Kenwood head unit (the 6.5's and 6x9's) (I know sony is not that good for subs, but their highs totally scream [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]
Anyways, I just need to know what to do to get the punch I want from my stereo, I'm just frustrated I lost all this sound from my highs and most likely losing a lot from my subs as well.
Shine some light on this for me please.
Any input would be appreciated.
P.s. here is a link to my head unit:
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...productId=2377
Cheers. [img]graemlins/beer.gif[/img]
Zigg'
[ June 12, 2003, 06:16 AM: Message edited by: DA FUNK ]
I live just outside Toronto Ontario and its time I get some answers to my damn questions... I hear different things for different people, so I need to settle this now!!
I have a low end head unit, with 2 outs on the back (im going to upgrade cause I'm getting a second amp for my highs and will need 4 outs at that point) Anways, before I connected my amp/subs to my head unit I first had my 6.5" and 6 x 9's installed in my car, when I cranked it my ears felt like they were going to bleed... Now, once I plugged the RCA's into the back of the head unit I lost 3/4 of all the sound... I don't get much from my highs unless I crank that **** to 31, where as before I could put it to 26 or 27 and have more sound then before I plugged in the RCA's. I think my head unit is only a 1.8 volt and I know they make then to like 8 volts now. Would low voltage head unit be the cause of loss of sound from my highs? Outside of my high's I think that maybe (logically thinking) I have lost tonnes of bass which may also be effected by this, I'm not sure how much loss in sound I have from that angle too. Is a head unit something that should be a pricey investment? Is it crutial to get a good one or else you won't get anything out of your stereo?
I have 2x12" Audio Bahn's being run by a 1000 Watt Kenwood KAC 929, and Sony Explodes in the front and rear for my highs being run by the 45x4 Kenwood head unit (the 6.5's and 6x9's) (I know sony is not that good for subs, but their highs totally scream [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]
Anyways, I just need to know what to do to get the punch I want from my stereo, I'm just frustrated I lost all this sound from my highs and most likely losing a lot from my subs as well.
Shine some light on this for me please.
Any input would be appreciated.
P.s. here is a link to my head unit:
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...productId=2377
Cheers. [img]graemlins/beer.gif[/img]
Zigg'
[ June 12, 2003, 06:16 AM: Message edited by: DA FUNK ]
06-12-2003, 05:34 AM
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You shouldnt loose any volume from the deck when you hook up your rca's.
Im thinking you have your subs in the trunk and /or a phase problem with your subs? [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
Did you try Changing the polarity on the sub leads?
And a sealed trunk with subs can effect the speakers in the rear deck .
Thats my 2 cents.
Im thinking you have your subs in the trunk and /or a phase problem with your subs? [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
Did you try Changing the polarity on the sub leads?
And a sealed trunk with subs can effect the speakers in the rear deck .
Thats my 2 cents.
06-12-2003, 06:03 AM
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Hmmmm, well I've disconnected the RCA's from the amp completely and still I have no gain back in the 6x9's in the back. I'm going to unplug the RCA's from the back of my head unit later today just to confirm that it does in fact get its sound back once I take those RCA's are unplugged from the head unit.
As for the phasing problem your thinking about, what exactly are you talking about? Please shine some light on this possible issue.
Cheers.
Zigg'
[ June 12, 2003, 07:06 AM: Message edited by: DA FUNK ]
As for the phasing problem your thinking about, what exactly are you talking about? Please shine some light on this possible issue.
Cheers.
Zigg'
[ June 12, 2003, 07:06 AM: Message edited by: DA FUNK ]
06-12-2003, 06:29 AM
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phasing is when all the speakers move in and out at the same time. They are hooked up all the same way in reference to polarity.
+ to the +
- to the -
Assuming the front and rear speakers have bass with out the sub and you then hook up the sub and the bass does not sound right.
Try to switch the speaker leads around on you sub amp to see if thier is any difference in how it sounds.
...And oh yess, i forgot to mention , always make sure you have a gooD GROUND!!!lol
Grounding seems to be the reason for a lot of the problems encountered in car audio. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
[ June 12, 2003, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: abnormal72 ]
+ to the +
- to the -
Assuming the front and rear speakers have bass with out the sub and you then hook up the sub and the bass does not sound right.
Try to switch the speaker leads around on you sub amp to see if thier is any difference in how it sounds.
...And oh yess, i forgot to mention , always make sure you have a gooD GROUND!!!lol
Grounding seems to be the reason for a lot of the problems encountered in car audio. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
[ June 12, 2003, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: abnormal72 ]
06-12-2003, 06:52 AM
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I'll have to run that polarity concept with a friend of mine who helped me with the stereo.
As for ground, she nice and tight underneath a bolt connected to my body
Now, are we certain that the head unit is not the cause of all this? Cause when I had nothing but my speakers hooked up and not my subs, those things were screaming [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
BAH!
Cheers.
Zigg'
[ June 12, 2003, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: DA FUNK ]
As for ground, she nice and tight underneath a bolt connected to my body
Now, are we certain that the head unit is not the cause of all this? Cause when I had nothing but my speakers hooked up and not my subs, those things were screaming [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
BAH!
Cheers.
Zigg'
[ June 12, 2003, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: DA FUNK ]
06-12-2003, 07:06 AM
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For the ground, make sure that the paint is scraped away underneath that bolt, use a dremel or something else to grind it away, and I think that if you use a multitester on the ground wire, it should read around .2 ohms resistance or less, someone correct me if I am wrong..... DUKK??
[ June 12, 2003, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: JeepBeats ]
[ June 12, 2003, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: JeepBeats ]
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