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#7
Cool man.
If it was my money I'd look for a high sensitivity driver and then I'd horn load it. Most of the ones listed in the poll are low to medium in sensitivity. I'm honestly directly thinking of a 18" JBL 2242H or something similar.
I will say that I'm no car SPL expert, my game is SQ.
Here's some good quotes from http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=knowhow&type=1
The ones you've listed tend toward compliance (primarily magnetic coil controlled in design) rather than mass (primarily acoustic resistance controlled in design). From how I understand things.
If it was my money I'd look for a high sensitivity driver and then I'd horn load it. Most of the ones listed in the poll are low to medium in sensitivity. I'm honestly directly thinking of a 18" JBL 2242H or something similar.
I will say that I'm no car SPL expert, my game is SQ.
Here's some good quotes from http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=knowhow&type=1
Subwoofers really can be broken down in two categories: Mass controlled drivers and Compliance controlled drivers. Mass controlled tends have low xmax and high sensitivity. These tend to be punchy and very loud and mostly used in live concerts for sound reinforcement or even car SPL competitions. Compliance controlled subwoofers which tend to be the majority of home and car audio subwoofers. They have high xmax, more weight, lower sensitivity, but more SPL in the lower frequency spectrum. Any woofer in these categories can perform well or poor but it largely depends on the required bandwidth. Using a low xmax woofer for subsonic content is probably not ideal and will not only cause distortion but it won’t be efficient. Likewise using a high xmax low sensitivity driver for higher frequencies is not going to be very effective. In truth, there is no one stop solution and most drivers can overlap these areas with good results.
So yes, more xmax does mean more SPL but only for lower frequencies where power is not the limit. Generally speaking, during lower frequencies, the driver tends to run out of usable throw (beyond xmax) before high thermal compression occurs. 0-40Hz is primarily mechanical, 40-60 is in between) 60 and up is going to be thermally limited almost exclusively for most subwoofers. Surprisingly, even the largest drivers with high xmax and big voice coils can be bottomed out or run past a safe mechanical state with only a few hundred watts if the frequencies are low enough. Without a high pass (subsonic) filter, or in a low tuned system, bottoming out or breaking a driver could be a very real possibility without careful modeling and testing.
So yes, more xmax does mean more SPL but only for lower frequencies where power is not the limit. Generally speaking, during lower frequencies, the driver tends to run out of usable throw (beyond xmax) before high thermal compression occurs. 0-40Hz is primarily mechanical, 40-60 is in between) 60 and up is going to be thermally limited almost exclusively for most subwoofers. Surprisingly, even the largest drivers with high xmax and big voice coils can be bottomed out or run past a safe mechanical state with only a few hundred watts if the frequencies are low enough. Without a high pass (subsonic) filter, or in a low tuned system, bottoming out or breaking a driver could be a very real possibility without careful modeling and testing.
Sensitivity is very important for subwoofers. Not all frequencies are limited by xmax. In fact most of the bass frequencies for music are really limited by sensitivity rather than driver displacement. Higher sensitivity means more SPL and ultimately better performance especially for upper bass output. There are several standards for sensitivity. SPL at 2.83 volts or SPL at one watt. The SPL at one watt is the more appropriate number for a fixed amount of energy while 2.83 volts is the small single frequency response standard. Also sensitivity is a function of, in part, the driver’s cone area. Its also a common mistake to assume that for example a 12" driver has a 12" cone. In truth, they are more often less than 10". You need to read the manufactures' sd specification cone area comparisons.
#8
mach5audio is in winnipeg
i got 2 mach5 12s sent to me (best subs i have ever seen and heard)
http://www.istonline.ca/contact.html
sundown and skar
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...s/Sub-Woofers/
dont know about locally but check the classifieds here also
i got 2 mach5 12s sent to me (best subs i have ever seen and heard)
http://www.istonline.ca/contact.html
sundown and skar
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...s/Sub-Woofers/
dont know about locally but check the classifieds here also
#9
mach5audio is in winnipeg
i got 2 mach5 12s sent to me (best subs i have ever seen and heard)
http://www.istonline.ca/contact.html
dont know about locally but check the classifieds here also
i got 2 mach5 12s sent to me (best subs i have ever seen and heard)
http://www.istonline.ca/contact.html
dont know about locally but check the classifieds here also
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