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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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Wink Ok..Let's try this again...

Ok, not trying to be a nuisance, but i really need help with my midrange decision, as i only want to buy this once, and never have to revisit it again... I was wondering how many of you guys on here run setups (active/passive), using DIY speakers/ kits etc. Late last year i bought 4 B&C 8 NDL51s. They performed very for the frequency range i wanted them too (150 Hz to 850 Hz). Loud and clear. I tired to find something that would keep up with them to cover a range from 900Hz - 6Khz thereabout, but found nothing so hence got turned off of the whole idea and just decided to go with a bunch of comps.
Recently, the Audax PR170M0 were recommended to me, so I'm giving them thought. However, I would like if u guys can recommend any other drivers (6" - 8") i can look into that would be loud and clear, and still keep with the midbass and lower mid frequecies that the B&C produces. Also, stores, etc where I can audition them would be a great help too.... Thanx in advance

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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what lines have you looked at ?
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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Well in terms of DIY drivers, I looked at Seas, Peerless, Scan Speak, basically all off the Tymphany website. Having no way of acutally auditioning them, i had to go off reviews, and most reviews i get say these mids are clean and clear, very SQ oriented but won't get extremely loud and won't match up with the B&C.......P.S. I sold a pair of the B&C so I will only be running 1 per door....
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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i do not know how DD speakers would work for what you are lookin for
i run focal k2p's
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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This probably isn't the best place to ask about DIY stuff.

As for the mids, if you want a small midrange, for 900Hz - 6Khz I'd say try Dayton RS52.

That Audax looks interesting. High sens .

I'm a bit confused, are you going for a 2 or 3-way front? IE are you keeping th B&C for midbass duty?
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Yea I'm going for a 3 way setup, and keeping the B&C for midbass duty, kinda like an extended midrange. I'm looking for a strong midrange pressence though.....
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Why 6"-8"? A 3"-4" would be better for a dedicated midrange. I would X the B&C's @80 to ~150, then use a 4" mid up to to ~4k. Maybe the Vifa TG9's? They'll play down to 100Hz in a 2-5L enclosure and up to 16kHz if need be. They're like $35ea at Solen.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 01:57 AM
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Ok kool, but wud it be loud enuff to keep up with the B&C, that's my main concern. The B&C are loud, and I love loud
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Radik
Ok kool, but wud it be loud enuff to keep up with the B&C, that's my main concern. The B&C are loud, and I love loud
I'm not sure For me it would probably be fine, I like it loud too, but loud to me may not be loud to you. Someone mentioned the Dayton dome mid, its sensitivity is rated a 91dB i believe. That might be a better choice.
BTW B&C rates that speaker @96dB but the from tests I have seen its more like 91dB.

Have checked out Zaph|Audio tests?
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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What are your thoughts on horns?

It's going to be tough to match the efficiency of the B&C's. The Audax drivers would do quite well and would be a good choice.

Pretty much anything else you use you're going to have to pad down, which isn't a big deal. If that's the case, depending on what you're using up high, I like the Seas Excel E0044 as well as the Peerless Exclusives.



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