painful post...idiots...
04-03-2007, 12:29 PM
#1
painful post...idiots...
so i was reading another forum and i came across a post I HAD to share regarding stereo stuff...
Here it is, does anyone else's head hurt after reading that?
So I forked out quite a bit of money, roughly 8 or 9 hundred dollars when putting my system in my SI. The setup was 4 gauge wire running to a switch, ZX750 Kicker Amp (750 watts, but it came with a certificate that says factory tested at 913 watts), and a solobaric S12L7 Subwoofer (750 Watts RMS, 1500 Watts Max).
Of course this setup should work fine and thump hard. *Should*, being the key word here. I installed this setup in mid to late October 06', and the subwoofer blew in early December, lasting maybe a month and a half. Of course I was furious, as I had never blown a sub before, ever. After having to fight with Kicker over the phone to get it covered under warranty, they finally agreed to replace it if I covered shipping. Fine. They also warned me that you only get one free replacement.
So I did some research to see why it could have blown, and apparently I may have been running the GAIN too high (about 70-75%). To be extra cautious this time, I decided to run the GAIN at about 20%, with the bass boost at 90-100% (previously, I had been running near 100% as well). So it got hooked up in mid December, then I wrecked my car December 29th and it sat until the body shop until March 10th.
And guess what? The new sub just blew yesterday on April 2nd, lasting about a month and a half as well. For the price of a L7 sub, I'm WAYYYYY BEYOND PISSED OFF, to say the least. Especially considering that I just ordered wheels last week and don't really have too much money to spend on new subs right now.
Which leads me to my next question. I can get 2 - 12" Audiobahn 1251T subs at $49.00 each, brand new, and they are rated at 400watts RMS and 800 watts Max, each. I have previously owned Audiobahns in my old car, and they ran for about 15 months, no issues at all until I sold the car. Is anyone on here using audiobahns, or can anyone provide some feedback on them? First off, I don't expect them to hit as hard as $300 JL Audios, or Rockford Fosgates, I'm looking at the best sub on an extremely tight budget here. Sorta like how the Kumho ECSTA SPT tires are a great tire for cheap, but still can't compete with tires 2 to 2.5 times its price.
And I'm never buying Kicker again. EVER.
Here it is, does anyone else's head hurt after reading that?
So I forked out quite a bit of money, roughly 8 or 9 hundred dollars when putting my system in my SI. The setup was 4 gauge wire running to a switch, ZX750 Kicker Amp (750 watts, but it came with a certificate that says factory tested at 913 watts), and a solobaric S12L7 Subwoofer (750 Watts RMS, 1500 Watts Max).
Of course this setup should work fine and thump hard. *Should*, being the key word here. I installed this setup in mid to late October 06', and the subwoofer blew in early December, lasting maybe a month and a half. Of course I was furious, as I had never blown a sub before, ever. After having to fight with Kicker over the phone to get it covered under warranty, they finally agreed to replace it if I covered shipping. Fine. They also warned me that you only get one free replacement.
So I did some research to see why it could have blown, and apparently I may have been running the GAIN too high (about 70-75%). To be extra cautious this time, I decided to run the GAIN at about 20%, with the bass boost at 90-100% (previously, I had been running near 100% as well). So it got hooked up in mid December, then I wrecked my car December 29th and it sat until the body shop until March 10th.
And guess what? The new sub just blew yesterday on April 2nd, lasting about a month and a half as well. For the price of a L7 sub, I'm WAYYYYY BEYOND PISSED OFF, to say the least. Especially considering that I just ordered wheels last week and don't really have too much money to spend on new subs right now.
Which leads me to my next question. I can get 2 - 12" Audiobahn 1251T subs at $49.00 each, brand new, and they are rated at 400watts RMS and 800 watts Max, each. I have previously owned Audiobahns in my old car, and they ran for about 15 months, no issues at all until I sold the car. Is anyone on here using audiobahns, or can anyone provide some feedback on them? First off, I don't expect them to hit as hard as $300 JL Audios, or Rockford Fosgates, I'm looking at the best sub on an extremely tight budget here. Sorta like how the Kumho ECSTA SPT tires are a great tire for cheap, but still can't compete with tires 2 to 2.5 times its price.
And I'm never buying Kicker again. EVER.
04-03-2007, 02:41 PM
#7
50 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 152
usually if a customer blows a driver i require them to have it properly set up
lord know how much power your putting to the driver at full clipping
when a amp is put on a scope i generally find that they are clipping it at very low volumes
and these are the guys that can hear distorsion
after it is set up and i show them were it begins to clip i usually find that i don't see anymore driver failure from them
lord know how much power your putting to the driver at full clipping
when a amp is put on a scope i generally find that they are clipping it at very low volumes
and these are the guys that can hear distorsion
after it is set up and i show them were it begins to clip i usually find that i don't see anymore driver failure from them
Last edited by robmar; 04-03-2007 at 02:43 PM.
04-03-2007, 03:25 PM
#9
I have a strange feeling the guy didnt break the sub in properly. the kicker L7 is a good solid sub, but you NEED to break them in properly. And if you want to get the RMS wattage handling out of them, you should really run a subsonic filter. I dont know anything about that amp he was using though. 
