Quick, "experts" get in on this!
06-15-2004, 09:43 PM
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06-16-2004, 12:32 AM
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I still don't see how the snail shell is any different than a well designed horn-loaded enclosure. Horns have the benefit of being able to basically tune themselves over a broader range than a regular ported box which tunes itself at one frequency. They are also generally many more dB efficient than a ported box. IMO they are more of a horn in nature than a TL but get that Wizard kid to admit that. Impossible.
06-16-2004, 09:35 AM
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From what I can gather on the companies website (their forumn) it isn't a TL or Horn Loaded design, it looks like a ported box with a port that doesn't have a constant width. for example the port would seem to have a width of say (I am just making the actual numbers up) 3 inches at the throat and 5 inches at the mouth. It can't be horn loaded if the sub is on the baffle and there is nothing in front of it.
Also if you go to the multimedia section and look at some of them they sure don't seem like much of SQ boxes to me, and they make alot of excuses on why their SPL is lower than the others in the competitions they filmed.
Also the part about "servoing" two subs together is baffling.
Also if you go to the multimedia section and look at some of them they sure don't seem like much of SQ boxes to me, and they make alot of excuses on why their SPL is lower than the others in the competitions they filmed.
Also the part about "servoing" two subs together is baffling.
06-16-2004, 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by DWVW:
. It can't be horn loaded if the sub is on the baffle and there is nothing in front of it.
. It can't be horn loaded if the sub is on the baffle and there is nothing in front of it.
Here are some links:
http://www.speaker-online.de/bauen/naumann/
http://www.atatan.com/~s-ito/sp/makizou.html
These are pretty funky http://www.carfrae.com/pages/frameset.html
http://www.spnet.ne.jp/~hasehiro/
I got lots more. Some really neat stuff out there. My theory is the powered4sound kid came upon one of these little-known designs and capitalized on it. Here ia a great diagram complete with dimensions:
[ June 16, 2004, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: SUX 2BU ]
06-16-2004, 12:40 PM
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06-16-2004, 01:06 PM
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[. It can't be horn loaded if the sub is on the baffle and there is nothing in front of it.
incorrect, you can have folded horns that have the woofer mounted on baffle, with a tuned horn that can wrap around the top, bottom, or sides, check out team shadows dodge shadow, a perfect example of a horn that the woofers are mounted on a baffle and the horn wraps around the side [img]tongue.gif[/img]
incorrect, you can have folded horns that have the woofer mounted on baffle, with a tuned horn that can wrap around the top, bottom, or sides, check out team shadows dodge shadow, a perfect example of a horn that the woofers are mounted on a baffle and the horn wraps around the side [img]tongue.gif[/img]
06-16-2004, 01:11 PM
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The way I see the diagram that Sux posted I don't see a "real" horn, to me a real horn has the driver mounted in the throat and the enclosure flares from there to a mouth.
That box that is posted looks to me like a ported box with a varying port diameter.
Anyways the thing that really got my attention is that two drivers couple to "servo"?
That box that is posted looks to me like a ported box with a varying port diameter.
Anyways the thing that really got my attention is that two drivers couple to "servo"?
