Fishbone

It just stopped working...wasn't driving it hard...didn't overheat...didn't blow a fuse...power indicator light is still on but no output...mids and highs still work from my other amp, so I know its the bd1500...played with the gain and everything else just in case it was a cold solder somewhere but nothing...any thoughts?

Thanks,

FB

ShYYLO

Maybe on the deck the sublevel is turned off. Try taking the RCA from ya mid's and connecting it to the sub amp.

SHY

Fishbone

Thanks but no...I only have one set of RCAs going to an EQ in the rear and only one set of RCAs coming out of the EQ to the high/mid amp and I am using the full-range pass through of the high-mid amp to run the sub amp...so, theoretically, it could be the pass through of the high/mid amp that is not working, but I doubt it since the high/mid amp works just fine...

Anyone else...

Thanks,

FB

goofball2k

iTrader: (1)

you sure it's not the sub that is not working? Check the wiring inside the box, maybe the speaker wire came loose. Also, try hooking up the sub to your mid/high amp, just to make sure it's not the sub.

Fishbone

Good point...could be a wire on the sub...I will try running another speaker off of the sub amp to see if that's the problem...

FB

Fishbone

Thanks to Goofball...yes, it was the sub that stopped working...because of SH***Y install work.

I am absolutely SICK and TIRED of SH***Y install work. I spent $500 for a so-called reputable shop in Toronto to install my two amps and two woofers in a box already built in my car...a little expensive for the work involved I thought but I paid it, so whatever.

Last week my subs go out...I figure its the amp...blown. Somebody suggests that it might be the sub wiring having come disconnected. I think, "unlikely", as I assumed the connections were soldered...why? because I have a Rockford 1500bd driving 2 12-inch Image Dynamics IDQs...tons of power...lots of pressure inside the box. So I hook up an extra speaker to the amp today...it work!!! So it must NOT be the amp...MUST be the sub wiring!!!

So I pull out the sub...not only were the two subs wired using speed clips, the speed clips were all LOOSE. Even worse, this shop used 12 guage speaker wire from the amp to the first sub and then used 20 GUAGE from the first sub to the second sub and to wire each sub together. WTF!!!!!!!!!!

I specifically asked the owner of the shop about what kind of wire they used on my subs and he said "good 12-guage stuff"...ya, for half the job!!!!

Keep in mind that all this is after they swore after installing my subs that I had a leak in my box and that I would need a new box. I later found out that the leak was because they DIDN'T seal the hole where the speaker wire goes into the box!!!!!

Needless to say, I am absolutely beside myself right now. Tomorrow the owner of the shop gets a call from me. I either get what I want or I begin a one-man crusade to destroy hurt this guy's business.

FB

MrEastSide

I would call and be polite and explain that you saw the crappy wire they used, and that the leak was caused by them not sealing it, and that they used crappy connectors for the wire to the subs. And tell him you are going to bring it back in and you expect good wire to be used with good connectors, and for your box to be sealed properly. I am sure he will gladly do this once you display your disatisfaction to him. And if he doesn't. Tell him that you will never buy from that shop again and advise everyone you know never to buy from them again. I don't think you'll have much of a problem getting them to fix it all. But I agree that is total BS!

goofball2k

iTrader: (1)

I'm glad to hear that your problem is solved. I would definitely talk to the owner and get them to use better speaker wire, they should do whatever it takes to please you, seeing as you did spend quite a bit of money on an install and the results were definitely less than satisfactory.

however, I would not go any farther than just not recommending them to friends, anything else could be taken as libel/slander and a lawsuit could come out of it, depending on how severe the results are. Tread carefully.

Fishbone

I agree that there could be legal ramifactions for defamation...but not by simple stating the facts as I see them...if someone can put up a web site call walmartsucks.com, then certainly I can post my displeasure in dealing with a certain company.

FB

Fishbone

Spoke to the owner of the shop today...his reponses were:

1. They used speed clips to connect the speaker wire to the subs because soldering the wires to sub leads would a) void the warranty on the subs and b) potentially could damage the voice coil because of the heat of the soldering process.

Now, this makes sense to me intuitively, but I have been in car audio for 20 years and have NEVER EVER heard someone say that they don't solder sub leads becasue of potential damage. To me, that is like saying that you shouldn't screw a sub to the baffle because you might put the screw driver through the cone.

Has anybody ever heard this before?

And even if this is the case, there must be a better means by which to connect speaker wire to the sub leads than loose-fitting speed clips. I mean, these things fell off the speaker leads.

2. The reason that they used 20-guage wire from one sub to the other and to wire the voice coils of each sub together was because, the owner claims, you just don't need heavy guage wire for you subs.

I won't get into an argument about the merits of large/small guage wire, but suffice it to say, why would you use large guage wire coming out of the amp only to use small guage wire from one speaker to another???

Anyway, he said he would "take care of me" and agreed to solder the sub wires for me.

Frustrated...

FB