Size Of Systems
With vehicles getting smaller trunk space to make the interior more spacious, how big are current systems in most rides. I use to see dual 12"s and dual amps but seeing the size of cars these days what would be adequate for most and the size of the equipment. looking for a versital system that can be dropped in most vehicles and still offer more than adequate bass.
[ March 06, 2005, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: SPLHertz ]
[ March 06, 2005, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: SPLHertz ]
Originally posted by Haunz:
'drop in' with a midsized sedan probably means 2 12s sealed and under 2kw...
'drop in' with a midsized sedan probably means 2 12s sealed and under 2kw...
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WHat's your definaition if "adequate" bass? Most people seem to be recomending 1000W. I don't have nearly that kind of power to my subs, and I would bet that most don't. For a simple reasonable system I like to do a 4 channel amp with about 50X4 with channels 3 and 4 bridged to a decent 10 in a ported box.
yeah, I don't think adequate power means 1KW, that is a lot of power for a drop in system. You have to considder the electrical system of the vehicle and cost, a single 12 or dual 10s that can handle 1000 watts or 500 watts each are not going to be cheap. I would say a nice 5 channel like Alpines F450 with 4 co-axials and a 10" sub is pretty reasonable and far better than just about any factory system. Cost will probably be in the $1,000.00 range for equipment and a few hundred for basic install. I considder that a very good drop in system, 440 watts,1 amp-simple ,cheap install, very good SQ. This is based on actual street prices, not msrp.
Vehicles are definetly getting tighter for audio systems.
That's why Pioneer has manufactured products like the TS-SW124D shallow mount 12" subwoofer, Class D amplifiers (big power for small space) & the AVIC-N1 (GPS navigation, DVD video playback, CD/CD-R/CD-RW/MP3 playback, radio & amplifier all in one package).
I think these types of products will become more & more important in the future when we all have to drive Smart cars.
That's why Pioneer has manufactured products like the TS-SW124D shallow mount 12" subwoofer, Class D amplifiers (big power for small space) & the AVIC-N1 (GPS navigation, DVD video playback, CD/CD-R/CD-RW/MP3 playback, radio & amplifier all in one package).
I think these types of products will become more & more important in the future when we all have to drive Smart cars.
I think 2 10", ported, with 350-500 RMS is lots for most people. it may not hti big SPL numbers, but it will be as loud as it needs to be, and a good ported box will let it hit as low as it needs to.
There's no such thing as "adequate enough bass"
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Something also to bare in mind is how much of the trunk are you willing to sacrifice.
I recently devoted about 90% of my trunk to SPL..I'd love to keep the trunk but I also want to be somewhat competitive this year and for wnat I have in mind it means being flexible...
But this is not the case for all.. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
[img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img] ..Something also to bare in mind is how much of the trunk are you willing to sacrifice.
I recently devoted about 90% of my trunk to SPL..I'd love to keep the trunk but I also want to be somewhat competitive this year and for wnat I have in mind it means being flexible...
But this is not the case for all.. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
There's alot of flexibility with (recent) equipment- you can get large (eg:1KW) amps that are fairly small, subs that play well in small enclosures, HU's that pack lots of features into a single DIN, and as mentioned, smaller/shallower speakers, etc. But I would guess that the most common install is probably still 2 subs (10 or 12), a deck and 2 amps.


