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Sterling 04-13-2004 01:26 PM

Is there any need for fancy battery terminal's or is it just for show? I can get a regular one for $5 or a brass/gold/platinum etc. for $25

Father Yuli 04-13-2004 05:56 PM

fancy battery terminals are actually worse than the cheap ring terminals

defro13 04-13-2004 05:59 PM

explain tinted?

cavity 04-13-2004 06:24 PM

cheap ones are lead, and they are soft so they fit the terminal perfectly. fancy ones are harder metal and may not make a perfect connection, while a cheap lead one will always do if it's on properly and clean

Dereck Waller 04-13-2004 09:57 PM

silly defro13, didn't you learn anything in SPL 101? The uglier it is the better it works, of course this only applies to SPL [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Sterling 04-14-2004 06:01 AM

So the rule is the uglier the better!
Thanks you guys just saved me $40.

Sassmaster 04-14-2004 07:06 AM

if uglier is better, then if I paste a picture of richard simmons onto my amp, can I run in at 0.5 ohms???

slow/n\low 04-14-2004 09:05 PM


Originally posted by Tinted:
fancy battery terminals are actually worse than the cheap ring terminals
T


Tinted you are such a damn tool.

and you wonder why people think you are a moron.


The hard thing to understand is that people actually think you have a clue. [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]

Tim Baillie. 04-14-2004 09:08 PM


Originally posted by Tinted:
fancy battery terminals are actually worse than the cheap ring terminals
Please explain......................... [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]


I got to hear this................

MR2NR 04-14-2004 09:10 PM

A new pissing contest....I'll throw my .02 in. Does current travel better through lead, brass or copper? And do you think that gold or platinum or chrome plating make a better conductor?

[ April 14, 2004, 10:16 PM: Message edited by: MR2NR ]

Shaughn Murley 04-14-2004 09:16 PM


Originally posted by MR2NR:
A new pissing contest....I'll throw my .02 in. Does current travel better through lead, brass or copper?
silver :cool: but out of your three it's copper

and the only reason we plate is for corrosion resistence.

[ April 14, 2004, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: FurleyII ]

Sassmaster 04-15-2004 05:43 AM

copper is the best comductor out of the three, and chrome plating makes anything a worse conductor, because chrome is a very bad conductor.

The reason that gold and platinum plating are popular is that they don't corrode. Silver will tarnish, and silver oxide is a poor conductor, even though silver is a great conductor. Gold doesn't corrode, and keeps it's electrical prpoerties intact.

platinum is almost non-reactive and is a good conductor, not as good as copper, gold, or silver, but it will not tarnish, and is harder than gold, so it won't wear as easily.

Sterling 04-15-2004 06:18 AM

Isn't there some kind of spray or gel I can put on the terminals so they won't corrode? Every time I have my battery serviced they put a waxy materal on the terminals?

Father Yuli 04-15-2004 08:09 AM

Mr. Slow/n\low how many times do i have to tell you this -> I DONT KNOW WTF IM TALKING ABOUT!!!! please dont forget that again. so now that we all know I have no clue there is no need for u to say dumb comments like u do. Im clueless, i know nothing about anything, i cant even read or write...do u get the point?

hey Tim does this sound familiar to you??? this was taken from another post about terminals and this is what u said:


Solder solder solder.............it's the only way to get the best connection.

Set screw and compression ends look great but they are actually a pretty crappy connection
here is the rest of that thread for your review:
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/cgi/...c;f=3;t=008354

i think everyone pretty much agreed that soldering regular ring terminals gives u a much better connection that those screw on types of crimping??????

the original question in this post was:

Is there any need for fancy battery terminal's or is it just for show?
so.....going by the other post about terminals it appears that there is general agreement that fancy terminals (screw on and compression ones) provide a worse connection than when u solder a regular ring terminal. Tim u said this yourself!

if i have two terminals made out of the same material but one is a regular ring terminal which can be soldered on and the other one is a screw or compression type.....i would take the cheaper ring terminal and solder it.......is this not what you would do Tim???? and everyone else??

[ April 15, 2004, 09:15 AM: Message edited by: Tinted ]

Sassmaster 04-15-2004 08:55 AM

sterling: spray on red grease is what I use. it's used on most industrial terminals to keep dust and corrosion off.

Tinted: he's talking about battery terminals, and I've never seen anyone try to solder the terminal onto a car battery; simply because the heat required to do that would release a lot of toxic, and explosive gasses.

Father Yuli 04-15-2004 09:07 AM

ummm i know he's talking about battery terminals. im not talking about soldering it to the battery?? im talking about soldering the power wire into the ring terminal and attaching to the battery the normal way.

yah i totally missed the 'battery' part. I now see that he is asking about the connection between the terminal and the battery and NOT between power wire and the terminal (which i thought was the question)

That would be pretty Tinted like to solder wire to the battery. my bad. thanks for pointing that out.

Impala Builder 04-15-2004 09:14 AM


Originally posted by Sassmaster:
copper is the best comductor out of the three, and chrome plating makes anything a worse conductor, because chrome is a very bad conductor.

The reason that gold and platinum plating are popular is that they don't corrode. Silver will tarnish, and silver oxide is a poor conductor, even though silver is a great conductor. Gold doesn't corrode, and keeps it's electrical prpoerties intact.

platinum is almost non-reactive and is a good conductor, not as good as copper, gold, or silver, but it will not tarnish, and is harder than gold, so it won't wear as easily.

I have a project for you. Take any Gold plated terminal and buff it with red jewelers rouge.....guess what


Its' chrome plated, under the gold plate

Paul Niwranski 04-15-2004 12:41 PM

^ Chrome or Nickle? Many plating processes use nickle as the last step before the top layer.

Everyone should just use marine terminal batteries - stud is built in, no battery terminals at all! :D

http://images.canadiantire.ca/media/...0_CC_22ce7.jpg

Sassmaster 04-15-2004 01:20 PM

I was going to say, they'd never waste money chroming them. usually it'd be nickle, tin or solder, just to "tin" the copper or brass so that the bond between the base metal and the plate is stronger.

Tim Baillie. 04-15-2004 07:02 PM

Tinted, you need to relax, it is nice to see that you are paying attention and learning something.........................

Now please tell us why fancy battery terminals are bad..........unless you meant to say ring terminals.....................

SUX 2BU 04-15-2004 09:17 PM

I agree about the 'chrome' under the gold plate being nickel. And under that may be copper. The term 'triple chrome plate' usually consists of a copper and nickel layer under the chromium layer. But I do not know for sure if this process is similar with gold plating.

At any rate, it would be interesting to see what the resistance differences would be between cheapola lead terminals, and fancy gold and platinum, and even brass. I presume the differences would be in miliohms but who knows.

Father Yuli 04-15-2004 11:19 PM

i ment ring terminals did i not say that in my post [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

Sassmaster 04-16-2004 06:10 AM

tinted: but he was talking about attatching the terminal to the battery, not attatching the wire to the terminal

Paul Niwranski 04-16-2004 08:47 PM

I believe Tinted misread the question. minor.

slow/n\low 04-17-2004 12:30 PM

^ Yes you are correct, I also believe he misreads many posts.

Bigmike216 04-17-2004 01:38 PM

^ I think you need to stop bashing tinted.

Father Yuli 04-17-2004 06:55 PM

thats cool. he probly gets orgasm by thinkin about me

Bigmike216 04-17-2004 09:07 PM

Most likely.

Paul Niwranski 04-18-2004 09:45 AM

Well before this all gets ugly... I think the poster got his answer long ago anyway..


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