Thinking of upgrades
11-08-2006, 01:26 AM
#1
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 32
Thinking of upgrades
hey I was thinking of upgrading some of the stuff in my truck .
recently my friend picked up some orion stuff and I must say for the price it's nice ,
I'm running a PG 10DVC putting 300watts to it from a kenwood amp that must be around 4 or 5 years old now.
all my other speakers seems to do it's job nice ,
But I was thinking of either upping to a better amp and using my PG sub , or doing the SUB and AMP. and going to a single 12 or 15.
then I was planning on adding tweaters upfront as my doors give nice mid , I have kenwood 4 way 6x9's in the rear that do more then enough and sounds great as they are now.
my current amps are alpine 4 ch V series and kenwood kec6084.
I'm thinking if I just do the sub amp it might wake things up .
any stores in the calgary area have any good deals ?
maybe an online source for extra's , i want to upgrade my wires. Power ground fuses ect...
thank
chimera
recently my friend picked up some orion stuff and I must say for the price it's nice ,
I'm running a PG 10DVC putting 300watts to it from a kenwood amp that must be around 4 or 5 years old now.
all my other speakers seems to do it's job nice ,
But I was thinking of either upping to a better amp and using my PG sub , or doing the SUB and AMP. and going to a single 12 or 15.
then I was planning on adding tweaters upfront as my doors give nice mid , I have kenwood 4 way 6x9's in the rear that do more then enough and sounds great as they are now.
my current amps are alpine 4 ch V series and kenwood kec6084.
I'm thinking if I just do the sub amp it might wake things up .
any stores in the calgary area have any good deals ?
maybe an online source for extra's , i want to upgrade my wires. Power ground fuses ect...
thank
chimera
11-08-2006, 07:14 PM
#4
If you're even thinking about going with a 15" driver I can tell you straight out you aren't going to be happy with the change of just adding 200-300 more watts to your current driver.
Audition a higher quality 12" driver and see if it is enough for your needs.
Yes Orion has some good sounding drivers that get quite loud and can be had for incredibly low prices if you look around. An H2 will need at least 1200rms and I quite enjoyed the pair I had but if you don't want to go with that much power the lower lines perform quite well also.
Audition a higher quality 12" driver and see if it is enough for your needs.
Yes Orion has some good sounding drivers that get quite loud and can be had for incredibly low prices if you look around. An H2 will need at least 1200rms and I quite enjoyed the pair I had but if you don't want to go with that much power the lower lines perform quite well also.
11-08-2006, 08:55 PM
#5
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Join Date: May 2006
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I agree if your thinking about going to a 15 then you might not be satisfied with just a new amp and your 10 but more power will definately not hurt
If I were you I would get a more powerfull amp, dont be afraid to overpower the sub you can just turn down the gain and not overdrive it, and if your still not happy, then upgrade the sub.
If I were you I would get a more powerfull amp, dont be afraid to overpower the sub you can just turn down the gain and not overdrive it, and if your still not happy, then upgrade the sub.
11-08-2006, 09:46 PM
#6
Like the guys above have stated...all other things being somewhat equal, a 15" sub will move about 2.5-3 times the volume of air compared to the same brand and model in a 10" version, with full rms power. Therefore, if it's output you're looking for, go big!
11-08-2006, 10:45 PM
#7
You didn't say what size truck you have, but the old trade-off between box size and usable space applies here......I have done a few full size vans over the years, and they have used everything from a pair of 12s to 8 15s. Minivans are a little easier to get loud, but run out of space real fast.....
I am curious how you have those amps wired to the speakers listed. If you decide to add tweeters up front, you can run your front end off the Alpine amp, bridge the Kenwood into 2 channels to run the 6X9s, and get a sub amp to match whatever you decide to use in the way of subs.
HTH
I am curious how you have those amps wired to the speakers listed. If you decide to add tweeters up front, you can run your front end off the Alpine amp, bridge the Kenwood into 2 channels to run the 6X9s, and get a sub amp to match whatever you decide to use in the way of subs.
HTH
11-09-2006, 04:31 PM
#8
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Hey thanks for all the reply guys ,
First I was thinking , about the 15 and thought it might be too much for me as I do like SQ but I like it to pound when I want it too.
So I went out yesterday to check out some prices at a shop here in calgary ,
i was very happy with the sales rep as well as the deal he offered me.
so I ended up Grabbing a 12" orion 124d 4 Ohm DVC
http://www.orioncaraudio.com/subwoofers/sub_c_series.asp
with An Orion AMP
http://www.orioncaraudio.com/amps/Dmono.asp
HCCA-D600
with a bassworks Sealed box
I still need to do a few things till i'm 98% happy with it
I wired the sub up for 2 ohm load, 12ga speaker wires in and out of the box.
with 4 ga from the amp to the distro block.
Currently I'm using 8ga ground to my amps 10" from the amp and I was thinking of changing this to 4ga to the sub amp as the manual recommended
I removed the Kenwood amp and PG sub .
A few questions though .
should I keep running a sprate ground for Each amp ?(only two) or Should I invest in a grounding block ?
A few more questions and I'll be done for you LOL
I was thinking of changing the fuse Link I currently have off the battery to ANL , is it worth the change for should I stick with what I have now ?
last one FUSED or UNFUSED distro block near the amp which is better ?
Oh the truck is Huge when it comes to space , I have a 1989 Ford 150 Xtra cab , with the rear seats out (at the moment ) I would like to put them back in.
thank you again everyong
First I was thinking , about the 15 and thought it might be too much for me as I do like SQ but I like it to pound when I want it too.
So I went out yesterday to check out some prices at a shop here in calgary ,
i was very happy with the sales rep as well as the deal he offered me.
so I ended up Grabbing a 12" orion 124d 4 Ohm DVC
http://www.orioncaraudio.com/subwoofers/sub_c_series.asp
with An Orion AMP
http://www.orioncaraudio.com/amps/Dmono.asp
HCCA-D600
with a bassworks Sealed box
I still need to do a few things till i'm 98% happy with it
I wired the sub up for 2 ohm load, 12ga speaker wires in and out of the box.
with 4 ga from the amp to the distro block.
Currently I'm using 8ga ground to my amps 10" from the amp and I was thinking of changing this to 4ga to the sub amp as the manual recommended
I removed the Kenwood amp and PG sub .
A few questions though .
should I keep running a sprate ground for Each amp ?(only two) or Should I invest in a grounding block ?
A few more questions and I'll be done for you LOL
I was thinking of changing the fuse Link I currently have off the battery to ANL , is it worth the change for should I stick with what I have now ?
last one FUSED or UNFUSED distro block near the amp which is better ?
Oh the truck is Huge when it comes to space , I have a 1989 Ford 150 Xtra cab , with the rear seats out (at the moment ) I would like to put them back in.
thank you again everyong
11-09-2006, 09:51 PM
#9
Not exactly what I would have recommended but if you're happy with it.
I mean you paid to swap out a 300 watt Kenwood amp for a 300 watt Orion amp. No gain there just a loss of money.
The only real change you did was swap out a decent 10" sub for a decent 12" sub.
The money spent for the minimal change you're going to get isn't such a great deal IMO.
If you wanted to go with Orion I would have recommended a HP12 with a HCCA-1200. Then you'd have a better quality driver with much more output and performance capabilities and 300 more watts then you started out with.
I mean you paid to swap out a 300 watt Kenwood amp for a 300 watt Orion amp. No gain there just a loss of money.
The only real change you did was swap out a decent 10" sub for a decent 12" sub.
The money spent for the minimal change you're going to get isn't such a great deal IMO.
If you wanted to go with Orion I would have recommended a HP12 with a HCCA-1200. Then you'd have a better quality driver with much more output and performance capabilities and 300 more watts then you started out with.
11-09-2006, 09:55 PM
#10
Oh and to answer your questions:
I would recommend switching to a 4g main power wire. Fuse at the battery and at the amps. ANL fuses are more expensive but they're more reliable also.
You don't need to use a ground distro block if you don't want to. The main thing is making sure you have good contact on a nice clean grounding spot.
I would recommend switching to a 4g main power wire. Fuse at the battery and at the amps. ANL fuses are more expensive but they're more reliable also.
You don't need to use a ground distro block if you don't want to. The main thing is making sure you have good contact on a nice clean grounding spot.
