USACi Rules
04-01-2005, 06:55 AM
#11
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rigid conduit is only required when wire is ran underneath the car near a high heat source, in this case split loom is sufficient
no where in the rules does it state that you have to pop a hole in your car every 6", it does say that you must have the wire securly fastened every 6", this can be a factory wire harness for example. if you can convince a judge that the pyramid things are secrure than so be it
i agree about the alternator upgrade its overkill, but there are creative ways around the alternator rules, so be creative
securing your power wires under the hood every 6" is a bad thing?
the advanced class does have some, lets call them, specific rules, when it comes to installation, they are trying to really differentiate how a basic car and a advanced car gets judged, and trying to do this in writing can be challenging as it forces you to write in a matter of fact because its hard to write in the grey area. usac does require a creative interpretation of the rules, and you will be given 7 minutes to explain your system and your individual interpretation of those rules, in usac, the 7 minutes are very important
think of it this way, dont try to earn points, try not to lose them, everyone starts out with maximum install points, its up to you how many you lose.
as well guys your picture log should have at least 100 pics in it. everything that a judge cant see, wiring under carpet secured every 6" for instance, had better have a picture in your book, laptop, or whatever method you choose to show your pics
i will bne happy to answer any ? on this topic, and bryce, your awsome, err on the side of overreacting, take it easy my shady friend, we almost all friends here
ftr, if the adavanced rules are not for you, you can always go in the basic class where there isnt as much emphasis on install and everyone favorite topic, drivers seat only sq
[ April 01, 2005, 07:57 AM: Message edited by: defro13 ]
no where in the rules does it state that you have to pop a hole in your car every 6", it does say that you must have the wire securly fastened every 6", this can be a factory wire harness for example. if you can convince a judge that the pyramid things are secrure than so be it
i agree about the alternator upgrade its overkill, but there are creative ways around the alternator rules, so be creative
securing your power wires under the hood every 6" is a bad thing?
the advanced class does have some, lets call them, specific rules, when it comes to installation, they are trying to really differentiate how a basic car and a advanced car gets judged, and trying to do this in writing can be challenging as it forces you to write in a matter of fact because its hard to write in the grey area. usac does require a creative interpretation of the rules, and you will be given 7 minutes to explain your system and your individual interpretation of those rules, in usac, the 7 minutes are very important
think of it this way, dont try to earn points, try not to lose them, everyone starts out with maximum install points, its up to you how many you lose.
as well guys your picture log should have at least 100 pics in it. everything that a judge cant see, wiring under carpet secured every 6" for instance, had better have a picture in your book, laptop, or whatever method you choose to show your pics
i will bne happy to answer any ? on this topic, and bryce, your awsome, err on the side of overreacting, take it easy my shady friend, we almost all friends here
ftr, if the adavanced rules are not for you, you can always go in the basic class where there isnt as much emphasis on install and everyone favorite topic, drivers seat only sq
[ April 01, 2005, 07:57 AM: Message edited by: defro13 ]
04-01-2005, 12:00 PM
#12
I agree with the alternator as well, but it makes sense. Car manufactures make cars as "slimmed down as possible" meaning the alternator does the minimum to power your car. The 96-04 chevy cavalier is a great example. That alternator is a piece of sh*t. So any demand over the stock putput should be upgraded. That why we all do the cheapest way, and add a battery (lol). If anyone pm's me about the issue, I can help them get around the rules. Also why not try the "SQ" class instead of Advanced? You do not need an alternator unpgrade!
In regards to the wiring intervals, use your head a little...I bought little "sticky" feet for my wire ties. It cost me $20, and I got perfect on install. I only drilled 6 holes in the body, but a choose areas where double steel was. It's not stupid, doing a perfect install with no chance of failing, that's awesome. You guys forget I ran IASCA in western canada for 2 years and competed of 7. Dealers wanted USACi, and it has had great success. I had more cars at the Western Finals than any sanctuted car audio show in Canada in 10 years. Any questions, feel free to post them, I find the answers as quickly as possible. Would you guys like a rules thread?
No worries Tim, your a great supporter of SQ.
In regards to the wiring intervals, use your head a little...I bought little "sticky" feet for my wire ties. It cost me $20, and I got perfect on install. I only drilled 6 holes in the body, but a choose areas where double steel was. It's not stupid, doing a perfect install with no chance of failing, that's awesome. You guys forget I ran IASCA in western canada for 2 years and competed of 7. Dealers wanted USACi, and it has had great success. I had more cars at the Western Finals than any sanctuted car audio show in Canada in 10 years. Any questions, feel free to post them, I find the answers as quickly as possible. Would you guys like a rules thread?
No worries Tim, your a great supporter of SQ.
04-01-2005, 03:07 PM
#16
Originally posted by DWVW:
Hmm, to get around the alternator rule, wouldn't you just need a fake receipt that says you had the factory alternator rewound? Same as all the guys back in the day in amateur who had "receipts" that showed they paid retail.
Hmm, to get around the alternator rule, wouldn't you just need a fake receipt that says you had the factory alternator rewound? Same as all the guys back in the day in amateur who had "receipts" that showed they paid retail.
04-01-2005, 03:48 PM
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dukk, a pully swap would be considered an upgrade, im not advocating dishonest competing, just encouraging people to be creative in the way they go about their builds, to be compeitive and not get your *** handed to you, you have to do the very things that you competition is doing, not cheating but exploiting the rules to your advantage, its just smart competing
04-01-2005, 04:00 PM
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Oh sure - sometimes one has to be creative with a rule but getting a fake receipt (not your suggestion) is too far IMO.
Incidentally - on the topic of power... I was under my hood the other day wrestling with my power cables and was looking at my battery. You must have used a shoehorn to get two batteries under there [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
[ April 01, 2005, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Dukk ]
Incidentally - on the topic of power... I was under my hood the other day wrestling with my power cables and was looking at my battery. You must have used a shoehorn to get two batteries under there [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
[ April 01, 2005, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Dukk ]
