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Old 12-07-2004, 05:56 PM
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It's only 1.25CI per chamber. That was the largest box I could just go pick up somewhere without having a place build me a larger box for millions of dollars.

I just wanted to get the subs in there for now so I grabbed that box. It was only 80 bucks so I figured if I ever wanted to go bigger I could, no big deal. I'd build my own box, but that is something that I don't think I'd be very good at. Or I really wouldn't know how to go about it.
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well building your own is the best way to go assuming you have a home depot nearby and a drill and glue and screws...just get some help planning it out and get home depot to cut the peices you need. you can probobly gain a good 6db (four times as loud) just by making a well designed ported box (I assume yours right now is sealed) which alot of people on this website could help with and it would only cost around $40 in materials and an afternoon worth of time
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Old 12-07-2004, 07:53 PM
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^ It generally takes 10db to sound 2x as loud

(6db is 2x the accoustical energy and it takes either 4x the power or cone area or 2x of both)
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Originally posted by MrEastSide:
^^^ Getting some 15's isn't a bad idea. I've never had 15's though. I've heard they tend to sound a little sloppy???
thats an old misconception, i have a 15 in a ported box and if you heard it sloppy isn't a word that would come to your mind.
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"shocking Canada" I believe you need 20dB more to be 4x as loud. As "Haunz" has pointed out there is a doubling of percieved loudness every 10 dB. Therefore, 2 doublings(20dB) will give you 4x the loudness.
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by MrEastSide:
^^^ Getting some 15's isn't a bad idea. I've never had 15's though. I've heard they tend to sound a little sloppy???
You heard wrong. People like to say stupid things based on assumptions. The logic is "If the cone's bigger, it must move slower, right?" This logic fails to take into account things like the motor, suspension, and all the other parts that make a speaker work. There's more to accuracy than just the size of the cone. But believe what you will
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Old 12-10-2004, 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by MrEastSide:
^^^ Getting some 15's isn't a bad idea. I've never had 15's though. I've heard they tend to sound a little sloppy???
Some of the tightest subs I've heard, and will soon own, were 15's in a TINY box considering what subs they are.

With enough power and in a small box 15's can be VERY tight and controlled. I think Sean knows what I'm talking about when I say even in a mid to large size ported box, a 15 can be very tight and responsive.

Still one of the better sounding 15's I've heard Sean, I shoulda bought it off you.
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No matter how many times you tell a person the enclosure will determine the "boomy/sloppy" response and not the woofer size they just don't listen. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

Brandon, what are you doing in Cobourg (no "H" )?
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Old 12-11-2004, 12:30 PM
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So, if I were to get 15's. What size box would I want to use to get really deep yet not sloppy bass?
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Originally posted by Hardwrkr:
No matter how many times you tell a person the enclosure will determine the "boomy/sloppy" response and not the woofer size they just don't listen. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

Brandon, what are you doing in Cobourg (no "H" )?
LOL, trying to get away from the hell I call Oshawa.

I moved out here about a month ago or so now, might be coming back westward soon though, not quite to Oshawa though, maybe Port Hope, possibly Newtonville.

Hey, Steve told me he was building your car a while back, how's that coming along? Finished yet?
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