Is it worth it?
10-25-2005, 11:01 PM
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Is mobile dynamics worth the money?
I really would love to take the course.. and all id have to save is around another 1-1500$..
looking through the toronto site.. it looks quite fun, and an interesting experience.
has anyone taken the course lately? if so.. what was your opinion on it?
I really would love to take the course.. and all id have to save is around another 1-1500$..
looking through the toronto site.. it looks quite fun, and an interesting experience.
has anyone taken the course lately? if so.. what was your opinion on it?
10-26-2005, 07:07 AM
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its a waste of money, you could learm more practical, useful things on this forum and that a scary thought. mobile synamics is the puppy mill of the car audio industry. its designed to separate you from your money and leave you with little to no hands on knowledge. you will learn the basics of car audio which is usefull for sure, you will leave mecp certified as well, which is important to future shop, best buy and places like that. the mecp certification program is good in some respects, but i would hire a person with no mobile dynamics/mecp anything that i felt had potential over some kid who just "graduated"(use that term loosely) from any of the install schools. i have taken the course and learned more in 1 week working with a great installer, james tully, than that course could ever teach you. get youe foot in the door at a good reputable shop doing whatever they ask you to, lunch/beer runs, sweep, clean toilets, whatever, its the best advice i could give you, from a guy that has been hiring people for over a decade, ive never hired 1 single mobile dynamics "graduate"(terms used loosly) and many resumes come across my counter. i regularily advise peole against this course for 2 reasons, 1- its outrageously exspensive, 2- the things learned are basic and could be learned for far less by getting your foot in the door of a local shop or even by hanging around, not being a pain in the a$$ by hanging around, at a local shop.
heres a little story about a top graduate(termed used loosly) from mobile dynamics. comes in, wants a job, i ask what his experience is, he says, i graduated top of my class from mobile dynamics, i said "so", he says i learned alot and feel that this blah blah blah means i can work on cars for you, i say "is that right", he say, uh huh. so i test him. i give him a meter, take him back to a civic and ask him to check and see why the amp isnt working, after i show him how to get the meter to dc because he couldnt do it, remember hes a graduate, he comes to me and says he cant figure it out, i say "really", he says uh huh. i wish had a pic of the amp, it was mounted on the back seat of the car with rca cables plugged into it, and speaker wires coming off of it to a subwoofer box, no power, no ground, no remote, he couldnt figure it out, and this was a graduate, tops in his class. how could someone like this a) graduate and b)be tops in his class, i dunno.....
i should add that if the course was $399 or something like that, there would be some value to it
[ October 26, 2005, 09:18 AM: Message edited by: defro13 ]
heres a little story about a top graduate(termed used loosly) from mobile dynamics. comes in, wants a job, i ask what his experience is, he says, i graduated top of my class from mobile dynamics, i said "so", he says i learned alot and feel that this blah blah blah means i can work on cars for you, i say "is that right", he say, uh huh. so i test him. i give him a meter, take him back to a civic and ask him to check and see why the amp isnt working, after i show him how to get the meter to dc because he couldnt do it, remember hes a graduate, he comes to me and says he cant figure it out, i say "really", he says uh huh. i wish had a pic of the amp, it was mounted on the back seat of the car with rca cables plugged into it, and speaker wires coming off of it to a subwoofer box, no power, no ground, no remote, he couldnt figure it out, and this was a graduate, tops in his class. how could someone like this a) graduate and b)be tops in his class, i dunno.....
i should add that if the course was $399 or something like that, there would be some value to it
[ October 26, 2005, 09:18 AM: Message edited by: defro13 ]
10-26-2005, 08:37 AM
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lol even i know that stuff. lol still trying to figure ut this dang mutimeter. lol that's to funny couldn't figure out why it would not work. lol no ground, no power, and no remote. lol. thx that just made me a bit more happier.
10-26-2005, 10:29 AM
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this topic has been debated a million time on this forumn and others.
as dave said , it is as useless as a third nipple......to him. as he can make make a better installer from anyone with the drive and dedication. most guys on here can grab a young man turn into a fabuloud installer and car audio guru. there are many on this forum that can.
Mobile dydnamics teaches you theory not practical. there is some practical involved but it is all theory.
here is another story ive said many times.
young guy goes to all the shops in vancouver and applies with a great resume and great attitude. really shows that he had mechanical and practical skills that are very transferable . but could not get a foot in the door because he had no actually experience. most common excuse." sorry how can i trust a 30 000 car with you when you never even touched a a car. dude goes to moile dynamics and learns theory. comes back and has a job when he gets back to bc. why cause the company that hired him wanted someone that has the discipline to attend a course and that coupled with his attitude and that great resume got his foot in the door.
that student has had multiple offeres for work. now. cause his passion and dedication not only are apparent but it is reinforced with a certificate. that made it easier to get that apprenticeship or to get into that shop now.
its true you dont need mobile dynamics to get a job. but it is a a clear and easy chioce to add value to what you can bring to a shop. there is no doubt in my mind that i would not be where i am were it not for mobile dynamics.
research it some more and get both side of the coin. good luck
[ October 26, 2005, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: Team Shadow ]
as dave said , it is as useless as a third nipple......to him. as he can make make a better installer from anyone with the drive and dedication. most guys on here can grab a young man turn into a fabuloud installer and car audio guru. there are many on this forum that can.
Mobile dydnamics teaches you theory not practical. there is some practical involved but it is all theory.
here is another story ive said many times.
young guy goes to all the shops in vancouver and applies with a great resume and great attitude. really shows that he had mechanical and practical skills that are very transferable . but could not get a foot in the door because he had no actually experience. most common excuse." sorry how can i trust a 30 000 car with you when you never even touched a a car. dude goes to moile dynamics and learns theory. comes back and has a job when he gets back to bc. why cause the company that hired him wanted someone that has the discipline to attend a course and that coupled with his attitude and that great resume got his foot in the door.
that student has had multiple offeres for work. now. cause his passion and dedication not only are apparent but it is reinforced with a certificate. that made it easier to get that apprenticeship or to get into that shop now.
its true you dont need mobile dynamics to get a job. but it is a a clear and easy chioce to add value to what you can bring to a shop. there is no doubt in my mind that i would not be where i am were it not for mobile dynamics.
research it some more and get both side of the coin. good luck
[ October 26, 2005, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: Team Shadow ]
10-26-2005, 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by zzzzzzz:
if you know how to run wire ,fglass ,get a deck in/out of a car ,get an amp to run,and get a set of speakers in/out/play then keep your cash and ask for a job at a good shop [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
if you know how to run wire ,fglass ,get a deck in/out of a car ,get an amp to run,and get a set of speakers in/out/play then keep your cash and ask for a job at a good shop [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
id love to be a installer.. i just dont know where to start? and i think mobile dynamics might be an interesting experience.. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
10-26-2005, 10:31 AM
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I talked to at least 3 or 4 guys at Importfest in Toronto last weekend that had gone through Mobile Dynamics. Talked about a bunch of stuff regarding audio and installation. They seemed to know their stuff and gave the course 110% two thumbs up. I've also had a tour of the place and it's well equipped and spotless when was there. Furthermore, the guys that run it are great in my books and they know their stuff. Some of the results that come out of there are awesome. Are they the best in the world and the ultimate authority.......... probably not. But they are very good.
Ok, that being said, Mobile Dynamics is a resource for those who want to learn and improve themselves. But how good you are depends on you. If you take the course and do nothing with it, you will become cold and stale. Just like with any career field, you have to stay on top of things and remain current and practiced. That's your responsibility. Anyways, that being said, I think to label the operation as crap is a mistake.
Furthermore, as I've said before, awesome installers that are willing to teach and share are incredibly hard to find. A. Most have an incredibly huge attitude problem B. Don't give a shiate about teaching anyone anything useful as it threatens their future to give up their secrets C. Usually are too busy either working on something or whining about something else to have any time to share. So yeah, you may be able to find a shop that may have a decent installer willing to teach you something, but the odds are HUGELY against you. The danger is you may end up bouncing around never learning anything useful and be no farther ahead.
Give MD serious consideration if you can afford it. Check them out closely. Get the course curriculum and find out exactly what you will learn. Then find out where their graduates have gone and talk to them. The more information you have infront of you, the easier it will be to make a good decision.
[ October 26, 2005, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: dawgsbreakfast ]
Ok, that being said, Mobile Dynamics is a resource for those who want to learn and improve themselves. But how good you are depends on you. If you take the course and do nothing with it, you will become cold and stale. Just like with any career field, you have to stay on top of things and remain current and practiced. That's your responsibility. Anyways, that being said, I think to label the operation as crap is a mistake.
Furthermore, as I've said before, awesome installers that are willing to teach and share are incredibly hard to find. A. Most have an incredibly huge attitude problem B. Don't give a shiate about teaching anyone anything useful as it threatens their future to give up their secrets C. Usually are too busy either working on something or whining about something else to have any time to share. So yeah, you may be able to find a shop that may have a decent installer willing to teach you something, but the odds are HUGELY against you. The danger is you may end up bouncing around never learning anything useful and be no farther ahead.
Give MD serious consideration if you can afford it. Check them out closely. Get the course curriculum and find out exactly what you will learn. Then find out where their graduates have gone and talk to them. The more information you have infront of you, the easier it will be to make a good decision.
[ October 26, 2005, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: dawgsbreakfast ]
10-26-2005, 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Team Shadow:
this topic has been debated a million time on this forumn and others.
as dave said , it is as useless as a third nipple......to him. as he can make make a better installer from anyone with the drive and dedication. most guys on here can grab a young man turn into a fabuloud installer and car audio guru. there are many on this forum that can.
Mobile dydnamics teaches you theory not practical. there is some practical involved but it is all theory.
here is another story ive said many times.
young guy goes to all the shops in vancouver and applies with a great resume and great attitude. really shows that he had mechanical and practical skills that are very transferable . but could not get a foot in the door because he had no actually experience. most common excuse." sorry how can i trust a 30 000 car with you when you never even touched a a car. dude goes to moile dynamics and learns theory. comes back and has a job when he gets back to bc. why cause the company that hired him wanted someone that has the discipline to attend a course and that coupled with his attitude and that great resume got his foot in the door.
that student has had multiple offeres for work. now. cause his passion and dedication not only are apparent but it is reinforced with a certificate. that made it easier to get that apprenticeship or to get into that shop now.
its true you dont need mobile dynamics to get a job. but it is a a clear and easy chioce to add value to what you can bring to a shop. there is no doubt in my mind that i would not be where i am were it not for mobile dynamics.
research it some more and get both side of the coin. good luck
this topic has been debated a million time on this forumn and others.
as dave said , it is as useless as a third nipple......to him. as he can make make a better installer from anyone with the drive and dedication. most guys on here can grab a young man turn into a fabuloud installer and car audio guru. there are many on this forum that can.
Mobile dydnamics teaches you theory not practical. there is some practical involved but it is all theory.
here is another story ive said many times.
young guy goes to all the shops in vancouver and applies with a great resume and great attitude. really shows that he had mechanical and practical skills that are very transferable . but could not get a foot in the door because he had no actually experience. most common excuse." sorry how can i trust a 30 000 car with you when you never even touched a a car. dude goes to moile dynamics and learns theory. comes back and has a job when he gets back to bc. why cause the company that hired him wanted someone that has the discipline to attend a course and that coupled with his attitude and that great resume got his foot in the door.
that student has had multiple offeres for work. now. cause his passion and dedication not only are apparent but it is reinforced with a certificate. that made it easier to get that apprenticeship or to get into that shop now.
its true you dont need mobile dynamics to get a job. but it is a a clear and easy chioce to add value to what you can bring to a shop. there is no doubt in my mind that i would not be where i am were it not for mobile dynamics.
research it some more and get both side of the coin. good luck
i've ordered the free brochure from them, should be here tomorrow or friday.
Its really got me thinking.. cause id love to get into mobile audio, i love it.
but another thing is, id love to follow my dads footsteps as a IT computer tech....but if i could go car audio.. then ill go with car audio.
once the brochure pops up at my house.. itll make things a lot easier
10-26-2005, 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Dukk:
I also feel that there are better ways to spend your time and your money than on Mobile Dynamics.
Hell pay me $300 a day and I'll teach you whatever you want [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I also feel that there are better ways to spend your time and your money than on Mobile Dynamics.
Hell pay me $300 a day and I'll teach you whatever you want [img]tongue.gif[/img]
