Only 21 competitors at IASCA/IDBL Finals!!!
10-19-2005, 10:58 AM
#21
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you dont need to drive 20 hrs to get a plastic trophy. you dont need to spend 2000 or 1000. or even 100. just go to your local store and get one made up. cause you feel that it is a waste of time then it might be...for you. but it is exactly what we needed in the west to revialize the industry. and it is hardcore guys like rip rock, fx, us, dave o and justin(and others) that are making the west become stronger than its ever been. wether finals are kept east doesnt make it survive. ask audiothunder about that. it is dead even though it was in the east.
you are right when saying that 2000 to go to a final is expensive. and it is a long drive. but it is a final. im sure that seeing high scores from top competitors made it easy for not so loud guys to stay home. we had no intention of staying home last place or first place. im sure ultimate competitors didnt bother knowing that the pioneer teams would kick butt. it is sad......very. it has been in the east and didnt make anymore spectators come out. making it further west didnt bring out the easterners hardcores(like a hardcore would miss out) but i saw guys from colorado, portland, vancouver, kelowna and penticton come out. and making new competitors is alright in my book. 20 hrs is far for an easterner to come out. and it truly made the so called hardcores show thier true colors. only the fanatics came out. the hardcores bitched about the long drive and stayed home.
you are right when saying that 2000 to go to a final is expensive. and it is a long drive. but it is a final. im sure that seeing high scores from top competitors made it easy for not so loud guys to stay home. we had no intention of staying home last place or first place. im sure ultimate competitors didnt bother knowing that the pioneer teams would kick butt. it is sad......very. it has been in the east and didnt make anymore spectators come out. making it further west didnt bring out the easterners hardcores(like a hardcore would miss out) but i saw guys from colorado, portland, vancouver, kelowna and penticton come out. and making new competitors is alright in my book. 20 hrs is far for an easterner to come out. and it truly made the so called hardcores show thier true colors. only the fanatics came out. the hardcores bitched about the long drive and stayed home.
10-19-2005, 11:18 AM
#22
Pat my post was not to u, but the the guy who posted before you.
iasca was very strong in the east this year. i feel sorry for all the new york guys that got shafted b/c of this.
sorry but i'd rather be a bitching hardcorer than a broke *** lunatic who spends his life savings on a trip to a crappy finals. And my the number of competitors there it seems that there are alot more of one than the other. There are also exceptions like the Team Pioneer guys who got their way paid and just dont really care. Doesnt matter if it is a final b/c as it stands right now its just another show. Our 3x show here in august had 3 times the competitors and our FREE SHOW had 2 times the competitors that the finals did.....for $2000 bux i really dont know.......the free show cost people nothing and we had IASCA, Db Drag and Port Wars...could it really be that our promotional effors by some local guys had a better effect than the IASCA itself had for its finals??
audiothunder had other issues, attendance was barely one of them. they simply did not want any more car audio regardless of competitor or spectator participation. last audio thunder had 70+ competitors registered and TONS of spectators. they decided to alter the theme of the show in an attempt to grab even more money, greed was a much larger factor there.
Iasca can decide to keep their finals where it is now but then they might as well say good bye to their competitors from the east coast AND west coast. Yes u guys went out there and u will say that west coast is all up in it, BUT how many of u were there?? 10 guys?? So guys from BC counted for half of competitors there?? I dont know but i would think it makes ALOT more logical and financial sense for IASCA to hold finals that can be attended by 80 bitching hardcoers than by 20 lunatics? am I wrong? Im not saying it MUST go east.....it simply has to go to where it's strong thru out the season, it can be east, west or another continent.
defro i would love for u to clarify why me driving 20 hours is good for industry? also tell me why do i need to care about the industry.......the industry needs to care about itself and not rely on me to spend countles amounts of money on gas so after i can say YAY I DID GOOD FOR THE INDUSTRY...by your logic someome who doesnt compete, doesnt go or even know about the finals or doesnt spend countless numbers of $$ on a new stereo system every year does absolutely nothing good for the industry. I've spent maybe $5,000 on gear this year alone, i attended shows both in canada and USA, i've helped out as many guys as i could and landed out my gear whenever anyone needed anything.....am I doin good for the industry? or should i be shot and called a whinning bitch b/c finals was too far and too expensive to attend?
[ October 19, 2005, 12:26 PM: Message edited by: Prolifik ]
iasca was very strong in the east this year. i feel sorry for all the new york guys that got shafted b/c of this.
sorry but i'd rather be a bitching hardcorer than a broke *** lunatic who spends his life savings on a trip to a crappy finals. And my the number of competitors there it seems that there are alot more of one than the other. There are also exceptions like the Team Pioneer guys who got their way paid and just dont really care. Doesnt matter if it is a final b/c as it stands right now its just another show. Our 3x show here in august had 3 times the competitors and our FREE SHOW had 2 times the competitors that the finals did.....for $2000 bux i really dont know.......the free show cost people nothing and we had IASCA, Db Drag and Port Wars...could it really be that our promotional effors by some local guys had a better effect than the IASCA itself had for its finals??
audiothunder had other issues, attendance was barely one of them. they simply did not want any more car audio regardless of competitor or spectator participation. last audio thunder had 70+ competitors registered and TONS of spectators. they decided to alter the theme of the show in an attempt to grab even more money, greed was a much larger factor there.
Iasca can decide to keep their finals where it is now but then they might as well say good bye to their competitors from the east coast AND west coast. Yes u guys went out there and u will say that west coast is all up in it, BUT how many of u were there?? 10 guys?? So guys from BC counted for half of competitors there?? I dont know but i would think it makes ALOT more logical and financial sense for IASCA to hold finals that can be attended by 80 bitching hardcoers than by 20 lunatics? am I wrong? Im not saying it MUST go east.....it simply has to go to where it's strong thru out the season, it can be east, west or another continent.
defro i would love for u to clarify why me driving 20 hours is good for industry? also tell me why do i need to care about the industry.......the industry needs to care about itself and not rely on me to spend countles amounts of money on gas so after i can say YAY I DID GOOD FOR THE INDUSTRY...by your logic someome who doesnt compete, doesnt go or even know about the finals or doesnt spend countless numbers of $$ on a new stereo system every year does absolutely nothing good for the industry. I've spent maybe $5,000 on gear this year alone, i attended shows both in canada and USA, i've helped out as many guys as i could and landed out my gear whenever anyone needed anything.....am I doin good for the industry? or should i be shot and called a whinning bitch b/c finals was too far and too expensive to attend?
[ October 19, 2005, 12:26 PM: Message edited by: Prolifik ]
10-19-2005, 12:45 PM
#23
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I consider myself a hardcore competitor, however I would never have driven to KC for IASCA finals its just too far away and in my eyes no where near as competitive as db drag so I didnt go. If I would have went I could call myself a world champion as there were no competitors in my class but what is the point of that. But that is just me. I have read on the IASCA forum that some top contenders in IASCA didnt go because of cost.
Prolifik actually only 3 competitors from BC went to IASCA finals where 6 went from ON and 1 from QC. (this is both SQ and SPL)
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Prolifik actually only 3 competitors from BC went to IASCA finals where 6 went from ON and 1 from QC. (this is both SQ and SPL)
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10-19-2005, 01:40 PM
#24
ok so only 3 guys from BC came? and iasca is what was needed in the west to make spl come alive? this only tells me 2 things, 1st is that either westeners dont like iasca or 2nd that finals was indeed way too far for people to make it out.
10-19-2005, 02:59 PM
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prolifik, your eastern attitude is impressive, "lets have it closer to my house so i can go". they are trying to keep it closer to the central united states so it is better for everyone east and west. maybe we will have it in new york so you can make it next year, will that be good, how bout we have it in your back yard so your mom can bbq for everone, will that be good, how about we contact exxon and see if they will give you free fuel for the trip, how bout that. some of the best and most attended finals ever were in texas and arizona, i can hear your tears hitting the floor already cuz thats so far, suck it up you whiner. iasca and usaci are trying to make finals closer for the everyone in the usa, and that makes sense. actually, i wish they had it in colorado, cuz thats better for me, guess what, never going to happen. i will go wherever the finals are, i like getting judged against the best cars in the world and my dedication to car audio will take me wherever the finals are, regardless of cost, i am that dedicated. you have nerve questioning my dedication to it, i have done more to promote the 12 volt industry that you could ever imagine. if you think my info is wrong about another unified finals, so be it, time will tell, but i would bet a dollar its in kc next year, at least i, an many others hope so, its too bad you wont be there if its in kc, but i think i and iasca and usaci will all pull though the tough time of not having you there
you driving 20 hours helps the industry by supporting the grandest show car audio has to offer, the unified iasca and usaci finals. i cant make it any more clear than that.
[ October 19, 2005, 04:03 PM: Message edited by: defro13 ]
you driving 20 hours helps the industry by supporting the grandest show car audio has to offer, the unified iasca and usaci finals. i cant make it any more clear than that.
[ October 19, 2005, 04:03 PM: Message edited by: defro13 ]
10-19-2005, 03:06 PM
#26
I find it interesting that the guy with the full alpine F#1 status system is the only one who thinks that everyone should spend an obsene amount of money to get to a world finals that noone seemed to want to attend. I guess those of us who have less than 40 grand to blow on a sysyem aren't "hard core" enough.
10-19-2005, 03:46 PM
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3 guys from bc were there for sq, all had f#1, and none of us are what you would call rich. my whole trip cost less that 1800 canadian, and that includes towing a car in a fully enclosed trailer 6200k return, drinking an obsene amount of liquor, food, entry fee's, and hotel. that doesnt seem that unreasonable for what amounts to a one week trip, but that my poor a$$
hey prolifik, i heard that the db drag, iasca and usaci finals are going to be kansas next year, is this true. a real unified finals
hey prolifik, i heard that the db drag, iasca and usaci finals are going to be kansas next year, is this true. a real unified finals
10-19-2005, 05:53 PM
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a triple unified finals is what may happen, and kansas city is probably the place to be. it will be a shame to not get certian competitors out because of its location. but it was sure nice to have new competitors there experiencing it for the first time.
it is the hard work that has made it grow in western canada. not the proximity. once there was a strong showing in the east and a show like audiothunder pulled in 150+ competitors to compete, now makes its first funk master flex show happening. the 12 volt is changing. and so will the sanctions to accomodate it. west has doubled and maybe even tripled the amount of strong competitors. guys like andy and mike and mark and way choy are a cut above the rest hitting loud scores. guys like dave and tim b and us and james c making shows happen.
there are only 5 extreme vehicles in canada, all in the west. and im sure that this year will yield one or more to that roster. guys like david da silva and dean, jordy, yuli, and all those out there in the east are some loud *******. but the west is picking up momentum from hard work from hardcore 12 volt loving suns of biatches. you cant dispell that it is changing and growing. but it is hard to overcome whining and it is difficult to over come old attitudes, hence why there were less and less competitors and spectators at all hte finals this year.
db drag is a great sanction. but it is feeling the effects of attitudes just like the other sanctions. ask wayne harris if he feels secure with the final he had this year. i did. and his answer wasnt surprising at all. he's in deep despair about next year also.
it is the hard work that has made it grow in western canada. not the proximity. once there was a strong showing in the east and a show like audiothunder pulled in 150+ competitors to compete, now makes its first funk master flex show happening. the 12 volt is changing. and so will the sanctions to accomodate it. west has doubled and maybe even tripled the amount of strong competitors. guys like andy and mike and mark and way choy are a cut above the rest hitting loud scores. guys like dave and tim b and us and james c making shows happen.
there are only 5 extreme vehicles in canada, all in the west. and im sure that this year will yield one or more to that roster. guys like david da silva and dean, jordy, yuli, and all those out there in the east are some loud *******. but the west is picking up momentum from hard work from hardcore 12 volt loving suns of biatches. you cant dispell that it is changing and growing. but it is hard to overcome whining and it is difficult to over come old attitudes, hence why there were less and less competitors and spectators at all hte finals this year.
db drag is a great sanction. but it is feeling the effects of attitudes just like the other sanctions. ask wayne harris if he feels secure with the final he had this year. i did. and his answer wasnt surprising at all. he's in deep despair about next year also.
