Power Wire Hook Up Solder vs. Crimp pics here
07-09-2004, 03:52 PM
#11
A Burndy Hypress, which is what we use for up to 1000 MCM conductors, can be rented daily from any contractor rental supply company, and often can be borrowed from the electrical supplier that sells the proper crimp connectors, not those cheap, gold plated pieces of sheet metal.
There are also other, manual crimpers that do almost as well a job, I know greenlee makes one that works quite well.
The fact that I don't have any done that way in my car right now is irrelevent, as I use screw-down lugs for my power connections, which I find are just as solid, and I get 0 voltage drop from my battery to my trunk.
My posts are not pointless, you showed a picture of what you claim is a crimped connection, but I'm saying that it is NOT a crimped connection, it is a squashed, hack connection. THAT is my point.
There are also other, manual crimpers that do almost as well a job, I know greenlee makes one that works quite well.
The fact that I don't have any done that way in my car right now is irrelevent, as I use screw-down lugs for my power connections, which I find are just as solid, and I get 0 voltage drop from my battery to my trunk.
My posts are not pointless, you showed a picture of what you claim is a crimped connection, but I'm saying that it is NOT a crimped connection, it is a squashed, hack connection. THAT is my point.
07-09-2004, 03:53 PM
#12
steve, no doubt man. that is a tool i would use to crimp, i used a vice for that one tho. but not even with your tool u'd get a PROPER connection!!! and u know why?? b/c......
That is not a proper crimp, that's sticking the connector in a vice and tightening it. a proper crimp is at least as good as a solder connection. A PROPER crimp connection does not flatten the wire, it compresses the connector around the wire. I'll take some pictures of some properly done crimp connections on monday when I'm at a high voltage substation.
PS if soldering was better, we would use if for high voltage and high current applications. however we use hydraulicly crimped connections because there is much less chance of having a bad connection.
PS if soldering was better, we would use if for high voltage and high current applications. however we use hydraulicly crimped connections because there is much less chance of having a bad connection.
07-09-2004, 03:55 PM
#13
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http://cableorganizer.com/klein-tool...n-crimping.htm or even these
" PROPER crimp connection does not flatten the wire, it compresses the connector around the wire."
that tool does just that
" PROPER crimp connection does not flatten the wire, it compresses the connector around the wire."
that tool does just that
07-09-2004, 03:58 PM
#15
but would it still be proper without the hydralic compressor?
when i read 'compresses the connector around the wire' i image it would just make the connector go tighter on the cable without bending it, just sort of tighten up the circle around the wire. am I missunderstand it? b/c i dont see how those crimpers would do that.
when i read 'compresses the connector around the wire' i image it would just make the connector go tighter on the cable without bending it, just sort of tighten up the circle around the wire. am I missunderstand it? b/c i dont see how those crimpers would do that.
07-09-2004, 04:12 PM
#16
Here are some great tools for making proper crimp connections.
try page 24, those are excellent tools for making proper crimps. The indentor tool on page 27 is also very good.
Greenlee Crimping Tools
[ July 09, 2004, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: Sassmaster ]
try page 24, those are excellent tools for making proper crimps. The indentor tool on page 27 is also very good.
Greenlee Crimping Tools
[ July 09, 2004, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: Sassmaster ]
07-09-2004, 04:17 PM
#17
Those crimpers can either bend the center of the connector, where it is split or welded inwards, which is fine for smaller guage wire, or they can compress around the wire, the proper connectors for use on larger wire with those are actually welded copper tubes that will compress around the wire.
07-09-2004, 06:53 PM
#18
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this is similar to what i use
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=360-646
and i would say that hammering or vising then soldering would be an acceptable connection
crushing the connector before soldering will maximize the copper to connector contact
when you measuring pubic hairs i would say this should make any person happy
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=360-646
and i would say that hammering or vising then soldering would be an acceptable connection
crushing the connector before soldering will maximize the copper to connector contact
when you measuring pubic hairs i would say this should make any person happy
07-09-2004, 07:08 PM
#20
Originally posted by mister steve:
http://cableorganizer.com/klein-tool...n-crimping.htm or even these
" PROPER crimp connection does not flatten the wire, it compresses the connector around the wire."
that tool does just that
http://cableorganizer.com/klein-tool...n-crimping.htm or even these
" PROPER crimp connection does not flatten the wire, it compresses the connector around the wire."
that tool does just that
They're talking about crimping 1/0 wire and you show off crimpers that will do 8 ga. at the most?
I think I'll take my chances with my "crappy" solder job, thanks. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
