I hate to go against you but with the limited equipment I have testes over the years, I have seen some subs do better hot, and some do better cold.
My old mach5 spl12 (you should know this sub really well) I always managed my best numbers when it was about to burn up. the dustcap would be so hot sometimes it hurt to touch it. With the Aq's I now run, they like to be cool. Once they start to warm my scores start to drop. |
Originally Posted by bland
(Post 641853)
I tested with the fuses out before finals. No change, same score.
My battery in the rear can support the 5k, and also clamps consistently over 4k. I was really hoping for a gain going fuseless also a lower note. |
That is weird.
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Originally Posted by Father Yuli
(Post 641930)
did you try turning up the volume without fuses?
also a lower note. I'll try it again next summer when things warm up again. The one thing I never tested was voltage drop. I'll do a before and after test which will tell the truth if they do make a difference. |
this thread is going off topic kinda... lets hear it Les!
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Originally Posted by bland
(Post 641926)
I hate to go against you but with the limited equipment I have testes over the years, I have seen some subs do better hot, and some do better cold.
My old mach5 spl12 (you should know this sub really well) I always managed my best numbers when it was about to burn up. the dustcap would be so hot sometimes it hurt to touch it. With the Aq's I now run, they like to be cool. Once they start to warm my scores start to drop. When your voice coils warms up it expands. When it expands it lessens the space in the gap between your coil/motor. My best guess is this expanding helped your woofers increase in BL, which led to a higher spl score.. :dunno: |
Back onto topic more...
Maybe every 2-4 weeks we could have a skype confreence meeting between slper's? At least during prime time spl season we can be bouncing idea's, designs, and testing's between each other... It would definatly help out alot of people who are at a plateau.. I think it would also help out the forum(s) alot by doing intereactive skype. Instead of jjust rambling and beif, the topics posted online could be filled with more informative testings, theories, Q's & A's. What if we had it somewhat scheduled: 1st 30 mins: Is for all Rookie/newbie help, with basic designs, layouts, equipment ratings, reviews, vehicles, installations, etc. Next 30mins: Maybe discuss shows, events, upcoiming or past, local or even worldwide events., Any Organization(dbdrag, nspl, iasca, usaci, cspl, and the many I missed.) In this section we can go through in detail what happened at each show. It would be nice to inform ALL of Canada what's going on at, or even behind some of the scenes at these shows.. (This could help knock off some beeef. lol) Next Segment: Goes to all our more hardcore builds... Discuss, and critisize(constructive critisism) your designs, installs, latest testings, scores, what you blew up, what's better, worse, etc. Would be Great for the advanced street competitors, SS, and Extremes.. This segment would be very very useful for those wishing to compete on a hardcore level. |
I like that skype idea. I use it all the time on my iPhone 4 calling brother in Poland.
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Originally Posted by Livin Louder
(Post 641954)
When your voice coils warms up it expands. When it expands it lessens the space in the gap between your coil/motor. My best guess is this expanding helped your woofers increase in BL, which led to a higher spl score.. :dunno:
Don't think so, difference would be too small. I believe is an isolated result, maybe further testing would help finding the truth... |
Newbie here and there are a LOT of things slowing me down on becoming spl competeitor.
But I am getting there. The main concerns I have now are the amps. Some of the hardcore people here have like $3000 amps. Who can compete agaisnt that when their car isnt even worth that much? Lol I would be very interested in getting the loudest with the less power then anything. My current amp is only 500 wats rms. Which is awfully small so I will be upgrading but I really dont think I can afford something that can do like 10,000 watt burps. I been looking used and new and havent found anything decent. Also I like my subs for daily driving too. And trying to listen to 10,000 watts of power isnt exactly what im looking for. But I have no problem with owning 2 or 3 amps that I can switch in for comptetions. The 500 watt I have now is fine for daily driving but wanna upgrade to something bigger. Right now tho I am looking for more power. Aka wiring, batterie, and big 3 setup. I bought a termlab and will be able to test. My car is a 1996 VW Jetta and was wondering if I would need to upgrade the alternator for the big 3? Or will doing the big 3 still be beneficial even with the stock alternator? My lights dont dim right now but might once I get bigger amp. I have 2 runs of 0 Gauage one for positive and negative for the battery (which I dont own yet). I read I will need at least 8? Now my car is used year round how can I run these wires without taking out my whole fire wall? lol. There is so much to learn and some people like me dont have high speed. So skype wouldnt work too well? Unless I am wrong but doesnt skype have like video conference and stuff? Also if you guys decide to skype maybe someone could write down everything that was talked about and post it somewhere? Not having to post the whole thing but have like little folders u can download on the subject your looking for to read? I am not sure but I am highly interested in this topic. |
I like sugar too!!!
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Originally Posted by madwarrior
(Post 641979)
Newbie here and there are a LOT of things slowing me down on becoming spl competeitor.
But I am getting there. The main concerns I have now are the amps. Some of the hardcore people here have like $3000 amps. Who can compete agaisnt that when their car isnt even worth that much? Lol I would be very interested in getting the loudest with the less power then anything. My current amp is only 500 wats rms. Which is awfully small so I will be upgrading but I really dont think I can afford something that can do like 10,000 watt burps. I been looking used and new and havent found anything decent. Also I like my subs for daily driving too. And trying to listen to 10,000 watts of power isnt exactly what im looking for. But I have no problem with owning 2 or 3 amps that I can switch in for comptetions. The 500 watt I have now is fine for daily driving but wanna upgrade to something bigger. Right now tho I am looking for more power. Aka wiring, batterie, and big 3 setup. I bought a termlab and will be able to test. My car is a 1996 VW Jetta and was wondering if I would need to upgrade the alternator for the big 3? Or will doing the big 3 still be beneficial even with the stock alternator? My lights dont dim right now but might once I get bigger amp. I have 2 runs of 0 Gauage one for positive and negative for the battery (which I dont own yet). I read I will need at least 8? Now my car is used year round how can I run these wires without taking out my whole fire wall? lol. There is so much to learn and some people like me dont have high speed. So skype wouldnt work too well? Unless I am wrong but doesnt skype have like video conference and stuff? Also if you guys decide to skype maybe someone could write down everything that was talked about and post it somewhere? Not having to post the whole thing but have like little folders u can download on the subject your looking for to read? I am not sure but I am highly interested in this topic. Talk to Les about your Jetta ... he did quite well in his. 152-153 if I remember yes in the trunk |
There's a service all the celebrities use ... celeb "broadcasts" themselves while users watch and can chat in real-time, but the entire chats are saved / video is recorded.
I can't remember the name of the site right now, but couldn't you more less skype into that? Isn't skype just a webcam telephone call? Never used. Edit: It's UStream ... If you have 10 minutes, look up that site ... Or I will try to this week. You need to figure out if you want to chat in real-time and answer questions on the fly, or if you want to control it, come up with some videos and answer questions after the fact. To be honest, I would want to hear what you have to say, rather than tweaking someone's Jetta for a show ... That's a very specific question and only helps one person. Up to you :p |
It's not just a jetta, it's every car. If everyone knew how to tweak and tune properly there wouldn't be such a hugh discrepancy between scores.
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Any ideas on how ur gonna tell the little secrets? You gave me some good advice so far
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still waiting on this so called video.......
i think this thread is going to be a bust |
Originally Posted by jalat
(Post 642528)
still waiting on this so called video.......
i think this thread is going to be a bust |
The end is nigh! The end is nigh!
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Les is always super busy working all over canada sometimes so cut him some slack. Trust me when i tell you this thread isn't dead:smokin:
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Hey DJ whats CT exactly?
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Originally Posted by jalat
(Post 642528)
still waiting on this so called video.......
i think this thread is going to be a bust |
Originally Posted by Lessy
(Post 642642)
I'll make it when I have time. I just came back form Fredricton this week. Till then the only bust will be your score lol
i couldn't care less about my score. i play music, not tones when i drive no point in having an instructional video more than halfway thru the season... i'm still going to say this thread is going to flop, one way or another |
Originally Posted by jalat
(Post 642649)
wow good one....
i couldn't care less about my score. i play music, not tones when i drive no point in having an instructional video more than halfway thru the season... i'm still going to say this thread is going to flop, one way or another |
Originally Posted by jalat
(Post 642649)
wow good one....
i couldn't care less about my score. i play music, not tones when i drive no point in having an instructional video more than halfway thru the season... i'm still going to say this thread is going to flop, one way or another |
Originally Posted by Father Yuli
(Post 642655)
stop trying to be the resident douche, that spot has been long filled.
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Originally Posted by jalat
(Post 642656)
uh oh. does yuli not like the taste of his own medicine?
why would I like the taste of something I feed to other people? but, you are not doing it to me here. |
Anytime ur ready les. We have some things to take care of too!
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Wasn't Jalat banned? Why did people want him back again?
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jalats the box man
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^^ i didn't know males had "boxes"
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Originally Posted by madwarrior
(Post 642669)
Wasn't Jalat banned? Why did people want him back again?
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I haven't seen any helpful posts from you but I only been on for around a year
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Originally Posted by jalat
(Post 642679)
because despite what i sometimes say to people to light a flame under their ass, to see them do work (eg this thread) i have helped out over half of CCA with something, 90% of the time an enclosure design or something along those lines
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Originally Posted by madwarrior
(Post 642680)
I haven't seen any helpful posts from you but I only been on for around a year
i'm not going to clog this thread with bs but you should look back on some of your own threads and see how i've given YOU help. |
Originally Posted by Livin Louder
(Post 642676)
^^ i didn't know males had "boxes"
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