Thats still a step back from full control over every function like the 203 and 505 have with the H701. Also it dont see any mention otherwise so its safe to assume that since it also uses imprint for auto tune that there will be next to no user fine tuning alowed after imprint is run? That alone is the reason i went with the H701 over imprint in the first place.

I don't disagree.

Alpine has given up on the SQ crowd in favour of the iPod crowd. This is just a shiny toy to keep us placated.

Well it goes without saying the Arc piece will eclipse everything else :rolleyes: but I like to consider all options. At this time I have not found a unit that suits my needs more than the BitOne though but the RF one might. Hopefully it's not as flakey as the 360.2 was.

I didn't see anything about the arc piece. Whats the scoop?

it was mentioned to me that the ARC demo car had a working model at CES and it was quite good.

Not saying the new ARC piece will eclipse everything, I have more faith in ArcAudio products then say alpine, rockford, and audison. I've owned all three of their processors and each of them had their little annoying quarks.

Dukk I too found the 360.2, was flaky with BT modules and memory saving issues. I found it sounded fair and lacked processing power.

Bitone by far sonically better and overall easy to control but I couldn't get beyond the issue I had with 3 units.

I'm looking forward to all the new units and hearing feedback from the SQ public. I'm not jumping into a new processor until it's proven reliable.

Why? :dunno:

Just personal opinion that's all.

Yeah no kidding. They don't have anywhere near the resources that alpine RF and such have.

...not t mention they've been very solid brands for 30-40 years now, also I keep hearing Alpine isn't into SQ anymore??? Just because a company offers real life usable features and is smart enough to cater to large markets does not mean they aren't interested in SQ. Their "SQ" oriented decks (cda-117 for example, have upgraded DAC's (24 bit burr brown), USB direct digital inputs (for ipod's that are used as hard drives with wav or lossless files), 4 volt outs, lots of tuning capabilities, and specs that are as good or better than the best of just 5-10 years ago. I'll admit I miss a few features that my 9835/33 had (variable colour, motorized face, and the expanded tuning of bass engine plus (the only SQ feature I may add)), but it also lacked the 24 bit DAC's (not a big issue to me but it is an SQ feature) and digital usb input, and it was almost twice the price of a cda 117 only 5 years ago.