Is an active system on the front stage mid/tweeter far better than any passive crossover any day?

Answer = it depends on the application and the level of skill that the system designer has. In terms of Car Audio - I have met only a few that 1. Possess the education and 2. Possess the test equipment and software and 3. Possess the time and cash to get a passive network nailed!

Having said that, I'd go active all the way, especially when desiring to overcome electrical delay issues.


What's your opinion on horns instead of tweeters (in mind are the Image Dynamics)?

Answer: I have a pair of Image CD 1 Pros sitting next to me (i needed to grab them to read the model number off of them - they are for sale $300.00) and I like them but, they are hard to EQ and sound a little dull on the top end. That said, you can get music out of them, but traditional tweeters on the other hand require far less EQ'ing and have a more natural sound (in terms of quality tweeter) and are less directional - not to mention much easier to install.

And last, quite a few post back I saw you listed MTX Elite as quality SQ amps. I was surprised to see them listed but have no experience with them. Is it processing on those amps or design/components that make them good and does that technology trickle down to their medium/low end amps.

Answer: MTX Elite product are of hi-fi quality as are several other brands. I mention MTX because unlike others MTX is capable of bring them to market at lower prices making them a value worth considering.

MTX bought Xtant a few years ago and uses some Xtant technologies in their Elite level amps...

I believe some of their lower level amps use Xtant cooling technology but nothing more...

As to your question about design approach - good old fashion high current design and quality components... They measure well and sound nice and are within reach of the many rather than the few... Thats why they made my list.

Thanks and I've been enjoying your thread.

Your welcome - thank you for your comments.

 

I was just hoping you might give me some insight into the evolution of the market economy in the southern colonies. My contention is that prior to the Revolutionary War, the economic modalities, especially in the southern colonies, could be most aptly described as agrarian precapitalist.

 

LOL I am not Jason Bourne... But close! He was truly gifted - I am merely a good student!

You made me actually laugh out loud!

 

Keep laughin'

We're going to f**k up some smat kids.......................... and you sound smat.

 

It was obvious there was no spank, just a bunch of random dribble.
I will just quote some of the stuff you posted...

This is definitely old school thinking. Get with the times
Nobody wants to listen to a system in one sweet spot.

In a car, multiple speaker locations is the best way to force the recording environment into the car. And really, sophisticated processing negating the effects of multiple driver distances are easy to obtain and more sophisticated then ever and it's continuously getting better and better.

You are clearly confusing the ideal of having all sounds played by one "full range" driver being the ideal to suddenly the ideal being the least amount of speakers as possible as well. This is an entire topic of itself .. How about this Gem

Stereophonic is obsolete

I have come by many speakers that I wouldn't want to listen to on axis. Therefore, having them as on axis as ... practical? Huh? Are you leaving yourself an out here?
Anyways, your quote about aiming really is flawed, because it is entirely dependent on the systems design, driver selection and install location.

blah blah blah. Indeed that is one of the ways to create a stereo recording.... There is also ones involving 2 mikes and actually recording in stereo. What's your point?

 

- is this the Bourne Identity Thread now?

 

Here is a real answer.

There is nothing that a passive can do that an active system can't do better and easier.

When we are talking about car components, the xovers that come with them are "generic"... passives basically need to be designed knowing in what enclosure, what environment the speakers are going to be in. When you by a boxed set, obviously the passives that comes with the set will not be made for your install.

So in using the passive, expect generic type results.

 

Offering up a statement or two within a new set of adjectives, modifiers and subject completions changes the context of a statement ( - we all know this - even you do!) So in other words - to only offer up partial quotes within the Thread in which they were made is tantamount to propaganda – SO the real question here and perhaps the only one that you can accurately answer is – WHAT IS IT THAT YOUR TRYING TO SELL US?

Because from where most of us are sitting – you’re simply being self serving! I have invited you to open your own thread and share your version of reality over there.

Please stop following up my lead comments with inflammatory – comments which lack any citation of any kind...

If you don’t believe that I have anything of value for you – then stop tuning in and most certainly stop commenting – dozens of people are very interested in what I am attempting to simplify for them, in order for them to use it in a practical way – dropping pages of math won’t help a soul with in this forum, as it would require a translation – which is in fact what I am offering.

If you simply what to fight with me for fun – then say so – and I will knock you out word for word. If you want to learn, sit back and ask decent questions and I will put them in the cue!

Please advise me of which it will be... I don’t mind that kind of fun!-)

Next!

 

Again you are off the mark so show some consideration... do you not understand that you could mislead a person to the point where they waste their time and money and perhaps worse!

Go start your own thread and see how many people tune into you - stop piggy-backing off of me to gain an audiance...

Active systems can't tame impedance rises - passive Zobel Networks do... Active systems can't directly mitigate the electrical ring which occurs in tweeter with passive high pass filters; however, adding a notch filter to the passive hp elements does...

In fact - combining both within a system is most common practice in top quality offerings...

It is so clear that you have no formal education on any of these topics and that your experience is worthless...

Please note that I am not marauding around looking for threads to disrupt – I have created my own. Please do the same...

 

if a 300 dollar speaker is really a 25 dollar speaker, does that mean that a 20 dollar speaker is really a $1.60 speaker?