Bad A$$ Subwoofers
02-21-2005, 02:28 PM
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Why should the SPL guys have all the fun eh?
Subwoofers are the meat of the Car Audio experience. Everyone stimulates endorphins when high amounts of energy impact our body, it's part of how us humans react as animals. Our bodies and brains embrace hostile environments by shooting adrenaline throughout our body to prepare to deffend it's self. Our senses interpret and react to high energy, weather someone yelling at us, or loud music, by going into deffensive, and sometimes offensive states. Crank up the tunes, listen for a minute, then turn the music completely off and pay attention to how you feel. I bet your heart-rate has increased.
What I'm getting at here, is that what we audibly enterpret as enjoyable bass, is actually seen by our bodies as a hostile presence. This probably explains why many females are NOT drawn to loud music, due to protective instincts.
So how does this relate to SQ? Well we all have varying tastes to what we think and feel should be proper bass levels. I think the average enthusiast would be quite surprised to find that his taste for sub bass is often 20db or more above his front stage. Don't feel guilty if your an SQ purist, everyone gets a kick out of playing Linkin Park full boogie sometimes. For some of us, that means having WAY more subwoofer than our otherwise meager SQ tastes need. I mean this in both power, and driver cone area, and to an important degree as well, driver efficiency.
Lately we've seen a huge marketing prescence of the High Excusion low efficiency subwoofer. I'm not going to debate the benifits and pitfalls of such designs, but I do want to point out a rather interesting trend:
SPL driver technology being carried over from SQ. I bet everybody was thinking just the opposite was true eh?
Has everybody by now heard of the Shocker Neo subs?
Meet it's Daddy, SQ style:
http://seismicsubs.com/
And the largest consumer of this driver is:
http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/xs/index.html
SQ has Bad A$$ Subwoofers too!
Adam
Subwoofers are the meat of the Car Audio experience. Everyone stimulates endorphins when high amounts of energy impact our body, it's part of how us humans react as animals. Our bodies and brains embrace hostile environments by shooting adrenaline throughout our body to prepare to deffend it's self. Our senses interpret and react to high energy, weather someone yelling at us, or loud music, by going into deffensive, and sometimes offensive states. Crank up the tunes, listen for a minute, then turn the music completely off and pay attention to how you feel. I bet your heart-rate has increased.
What I'm getting at here, is that what we audibly enterpret as enjoyable bass, is actually seen by our bodies as a hostile presence. This probably explains why many females are NOT drawn to loud music, due to protective instincts.
So how does this relate to SQ? Well we all have varying tastes to what we think and feel should be proper bass levels. I think the average enthusiast would be quite surprised to find that his taste for sub bass is often 20db or more above his front stage. Don't feel guilty if your an SQ purist, everyone gets a kick out of playing Linkin Park full boogie sometimes. For some of us, that means having WAY more subwoofer than our otherwise meager SQ tastes need. I mean this in both power, and driver cone area, and to an important degree as well, driver efficiency.
Lately we've seen a huge marketing prescence of the High Excusion low efficiency subwoofer. I'm not going to debate the benifits and pitfalls of such designs, but I do want to point out a rather interesting trend:
SPL driver technology being carried over from SQ. I bet everybody was thinking just the opposite was true eh?
Has everybody by now heard of the Shocker Neo subs?
Meet it's Daddy, SQ style:
http://seismicsubs.com/
And the largest consumer of this driver is:
http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/xs/index.html
SQ has Bad A$$ Subwoofers too!
Adam
02-22-2005, 09:38 AM
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The home theater crowd has been doing more with subs longer than car audio has been around!
Check out this nice little sub from SVS:
That little guy has 4 12 inch
subs in a dual push/pull cabinet design. And you can power it with either a Crown k1 (1500watts rms) or if thats not enough a k2 (2500watts rms).
Not bad for only $3500usd.
This thing hit 110dB spl with around 3% thd at 20hz OUTDOORS.
It will also reach down to 16hz...
Check out this nice little sub from SVS:
That little guy has 4 12 inch
subs in a dual push/pull cabinet design. And you can power it with either a Crown k1 (1500watts rms) or if thats not enough a k2 (2500watts rms).Not bad for only $3500usd.
This thing hit 110dB spl with around 3% thd at 20hz OUTDOORS.
It will also reach down to 16hz...
02-22-2005, 05:15 PM
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Hmm, ~196 cubic inches Vd... that's just over 1" p-p throw for that 18" underhung driver.
This one is cool...
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/v...=144922#144922
Using http://www.gr-research.com/ 4 12" subs and 4 PRs - in each box.
And then this one using 2 Tumults and 4 18" PRs
http://www.acoustic-visions.com/~aco..._everest.shtml
[ February 22, 2005, 06:18 PM: Message edited by: hobbes26 ]
This one is cool...
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/v...=144922#144922
Using http://www.gr-research.com/ 4 12" subs and 4 PRs - in each box.
And then this one using 2 Tumults and 4 18" PRs
http://www.acoustic-visions.com/~aco..._everest.shtml
[ February 22, 2005, 06:18 PM: Message edited by: hobbes26 ]
