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Starterwiz 05-10-2005 10:00 PM

Have a 2000 Blazer with JL Vr 6.5" components up front, and a set of VR Coaxials in the rear doors, with a 4x60W amp
Looking to upgrade to either the ZR's up front, or change over to ID horns and a set of 6" chameleon mids in both doors.

Using a 12" L7 for bass, with 850 watts in a big ported box.
Thinking if I go for the horns, then a 3rd amp, and a 3 way crossover are going to be in order, as well as upgrading the 4ch to a bigger 2 ch amp.
Comments?

JRace 05-10-2005 11:10 PM

What is it your looking for out of an upgrade?

chev2 05-11-2005 06:24 AM

I dont think you will get horns into a blazer with the large air box they have on the passanger side.. dont know if theres enough depth either.

defro13 05-11-2005 07:31 AM

stay away from horns, you would better suited with a good set on speakers installed properly. horns although not without benefits, are impractical for most people. if you are talking about mounting the midbass in the door you are setting your self up for an imaging disaster if you use horns

Starterwiz 05-11-2005 08:32 AM

Looking for better SQ, a brighter sound, and something that can keep up with the L7 without blowing up.
Thought the horns would be good due to the high efficiency. Guess they would be better suited to a bigger budget, with kicks, and a full EQ.

I have available: JL, Kicker, DLS, Image, Macrom, Rainbow, and a few others. I'd consider Focal, since everyone here seems to swear by it.
Want to keep the upgrade under $3k retail.
Thinkin now maybe the XR JL's up front, and put a bit more into the install, but awfully tempted to have a really top line set, as no-one in town has anything that good.

Starterwiz 05-11-2005 08:37 AM

Anyone got the Focal distributors #?

Kris Dancey 05-11-2005 05:27 PM


Originally posted by defro13:
stay away from horns, you would better suited with a good set on speakers installed properly. horns although not without benefits, are impractical for most people. if you are talking about mounting the midbass in the door you are setting your self up for an imaging disaster if you use horns
Properly set up horns, can sound every bit as good as properly set up speakers, and IMO better in some cases. I have run horns in my vehicles over the past 7-8 years or so and haven't looked back. I'm not saying they are a miracle speaker, but they do have advantages over regular speakers, and of course disadvantages.

How can a horn install with the mid in the doors sound any worse than a mid/tweet install with the mid in the doors?? Lets compare apples to apples here. If anything the horn combo will have an advantage because the horn can play several octaves lower, will most likely have longer PLD's, and be mounted on axis. Several world champ cars have done just that, and we all know how technical IASCA sound is.

Horns are definitely not for every one, but they do have benefits that regular mid/tweets do not. They also have disadvantages as well, just as speakers do. weigh your options and decide what is more important and go from there.

Brandon 05-11-2005 05:57 PM

I like the sound of horns....they are very revealing.

They also require a ton of processing which can sometimes ruin the sound of a car.

I like my Utopia's, I don't think I would ever run horns unless I had some big amount of money to spend.

Horns take up alot of space for IMO, minimal advantages over a comp set. I'd go with a properly installed comp set from DLS,Focal or Image.

defro13 05-11-2005 06:28 PM

how can midbass in the doors and horns ruin the stage and image compared to door mounted mids and tweeters, easy, x-over points

Kris Dancey 05-11-2005 07:30 PM

Set them properly...

X-over points can just as easily ruin a component sets stage/image/tonality.

It's all in the install, just like a "properly" set up component set...


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