General SQ General discussion of Sound Quality related issues.

Doozy Pt. 2 - the whine strikes...again dammit (56k pic warning)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 11:25 PM
  #71  
Starterwiz's Avatar
500 Watt CAFz'r
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 870
Right now, I have grounds from the two amps plus capacitor to a ground block via 4 gauge, then a 6-7 foot run of 2 gauge to the main battery chassis ground. Then I have a short run of 2 gauge from the chassis ground to the battery PLUS the existing run of 8 gauge that was stock on the car. It's just a lot of freaking ground wires.


You still have whine?
Add some more wire in there!

Here's a suggestion:
Ground the amp to the chassis, ground the deck to the chassis, connect the deck to the amp with the shortest RCA you can stretch across the seats, then connect a test speaker (no crossovers) to the amp.
Have noise? No? Good!!!
Now start going back to your original install, one thing at a time, until the noise reappears.
Voila!

Last edited by Starterwiz; Nov 26, 2007 at 11:29 PM.
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 12:08 AM
  #72  
97'scort's Avatar
Thread Starter
50 Watt CAFz'r
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 136
Oh trust me, we've been through all that. Grounding plugs, however, show the whine is before the amps. That's what led me to get the HU checked, re-do all the wiring to the amps, plus the HU ground. Didn't really occur to me to think about the power to the HU!
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:37 PM
  #73  
M3@Apex's Avatar
0 Watt CAFz'r
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10
Originally Posted by 97'scort
Oh trust me, we've been through all that. Grounding plugs, however, show the whine is before the amps. That's what led me to get the HU checked, re-do all the wiring to the amps, plus the HU ground. Didn't really occur to me to think about the power to the HU!
Do you think maybe it's something with our cars? I am all out of ideas too.

How about the gauge of your amp power wires? Does that matter?
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:16 PM
  #74  
Haunz's Avatar
4000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,218
OMG.... alt whine isn't that difficult to understand or solve.... yet we have 8 pages of ridiculous posts......

Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:44 PM
  #75  
M3@Apex's Avatar
0 Watt CAFz'r
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10
Originally Posted by Haunz
OMG.... alt whine isn't that difficult to understand or solve.... yet we have 8 pages of ridiculous posts......

If you have a solution that works that's not in these 8 pages (since its all been tried), we'd be happy to hear it.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:02 PM
  #76  
zzzzzzz's Avatar
4000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,643
Originally Posted by M3@Apex
If you have a solution that works that's not in these 8 pages (since its all been tried), we'd be happy to hear it.
sell the car
LOL

had to
what to do
new power to the deck and amps
new neg to the amps and deck
test the rac's or replace them
try moving the neg's


thing's you have done are
test amp
new rca's
looked at the deck
had a beer and got pissed off about this f-ing wine
then looked at it abit more

so where are you with it now ?
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 01:13 AM
  #77  
Haunz's Avatar
4000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,218
Originally Posted by M3@Apex
If you have a solution that works that's not in these 8 pages (since its all been tried), we'd be happy to hear it.
How about a power supply with floating ground for the HU ?


www.davidnavone.com has everything you need.....
Old Jan 10, 2008 | 03:25 PM
  #78  
97'scort's Avatar
Thread Starter
50 Watt CAFz'r
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 136
The power supply issue is unique to E36 BMW models.

new power to the deck and amps
new neg to the amps and deck
test the rac's or replace them
try moving the neg's

New power was done to the amps, new neg done to the deck and amps, tested and replaced RCA's, moved the neg for the amps and deck. No result. Also exchanged 4 channel amp for a new one and tested the alternator. Still no result.

I have yet to try the new power supply but from what I've seen this is the best solution other E36 owners have been able to come up with. I'm currently working 50 hour weeks at the office and then saturdays at the shop, so I have zero downtime to get things done anyways. Look for an update near the end of March sometime once car starter season starts to wind down.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Scotch03
General Discussion
4
Dec 31, 2010 01:43 PM
97'scort
General SQ
10
Jun 26, 2007 03:37 PM
ZachCHartwell
Off-topic Chat
50
Dec 2, 2004 10:22 PM
Toolman
Off-topic Chat
21
Sep 7, 2004 04:04 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:57 AM.