CarAudioGirl

has anyone treid this i was thinking of trying four tweeters in my front stage. postioning two in the lower kick panels and two in the a pillers .. using the all the same tweeters.. or am i just wasting my time?

Impala Builder

My theory is keep it as simple as possible.

I assume this a SQ question (due to where it's posted)

Having to many drivers takes a lot of work to align to get the best image/stage.

If I could do a full range system with two drivers I would (one left one rigth)The least amount of speakers does a couple of things (in no order)

1: Eases alignment/placement

2: Eases installation. (to many drivers get hard to fit in small spaces without suffering from small enclosures ect)

3: Reduces the amount of driver output interaction, both constructive and destructive


I'm not saying that you shouldn't, or it can't work, it's just more work and from my personal experiance it's not an improvement that is worth the time and effort.

Get the speaker where you want to sound to be. Higher frequencies are usually easier to locate. You may find that frequency steering (most common in singers that will do that christina agulara up and down the scale crap...lol) is what will happen, and the singer will move as the frequency changes.

2 tweets, two mids, and what ever sub combo you need, is my build preferance for every car I have built, design, installed. And all have sounded pretty darm good, and in IASCA done very well.


Good luck.

Impala Builder

Just looked at your site...nice install.


The q-forms you use.........make sure you do this and I guarantee you'll have way better mid-bass


1: Seal off the back (glass the back of the q-form)
2: Pack it with dacrom (or any other type of that snow looking stuffing from the fabric store)

3: B-quiet(soudn deaden) the heck out of the baffle. I'm talking alot of it, git it to like 1/4 inch thick. The more the better.

4: The screws that they come with (or sometime don't) are not enough. make some back straps, and screw those suckers down.


A little bit of work will get you a lot of results with this one

Mini Steve

Well not to go against the pro's but in my daily driver I have that tweets in the door and on the pillar. It imaged prety good till I busted the system.... But all in all it's much harder to set up/ tune. Can go either way

JohnVroom

Using 4 tweets from the same manufacturer will give a sonic similarity to the sound. As stated common practice dictates the tweeters should cover different freq bands. Having said that many have violated that 'rule' and with some success (and some failure).
One of the vehicles I have heard this year was a technological tour-de-force (quite possibly the most complicated car I have ever seen or heard). Andy Wehmeyer had a car with dozens of drivers (tweet/mid combos) all operating near full range. The overall sound was coherent and the sound was very home theater-like (surround sound) when set up that way. So yes you can do it but you have to be patient and clever. Another option that is simpler is to use the 4 tweeters and cross them over at say 10K Hz (random number). BTW Andy's car was a new Cooper mini!
I am a ‘less is more’ kind of guy as far a stereos go but… I would urge experimentation! The 2nd set of tweets isn’t that pricey and you can swap out your passive 2 way to a 3 way crossover to try splitting the HF if you wanted to.
I heard mini steve's ride sounds good by the way

[ August 22, 2004, 07:42 AM: Message edited by: JohnVroom ]

cdj

Here is another approach to using four tweeters:

http://www.cdtaudio.com/stagefront_upstage_systems.htm
http://www.sounddomain.com/memberpage/407012/9
http://mainstreet-audio.com/cdtaudio...chnology.shtml

CarAudioGirl

final results were i lifted the tweeters to the a pillars and solve my problem.. no nned for the secong set of tweets thanks guys..

carstereoguy

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JohnVroom

Ahh so it was really a height question (maybe imaging)

Nice looking little car

hows the big SUV project working out?