Yea, here we go again with the horn thing.

I've been considering looking into running horns in my van,I think it happened after my buddy almost put his foot through my mid.

My problem is,and I'll take some pics when I get a chance, is that the bottom of my dash is quite low.....lower than most cars I've seen. I'm wondering how much this is going to affect my soundstage......I can run some tweets crossed over high but will that REALLY do much?

I have some pics of some heavy duty grilles that you can stand on that look awesome if you like. With horns, the biggest issue is having a 30 band eq to tune them.....

Well, that wouldn't be too much of a problem if my Behringer was going in the van, it's not, but I was thinking of maybe picking up an old PPI DEQ230 or something along those lines because I gotta have something and it's just too much work to build a rack to mount the behringer.

But the main thing with the horn idea, is leg/foot space.....would mini horns have the same effect as full bodies? Keep in mind, I am limited to the width of the horn, but I have acres of depth, so I can make the lense MUCH longer if need be.

You have 'acres' of depth along the kickpanel? What Caravan do you own?? :rolleyes:

The only KPs fitting into any minivan I've been in of late are ID minihorns and IMO they don't play low enuf to use.

Huh?? They play lower than any conventional tweet... :confused:

^ but the whole point is that they are supposed to cover the midrange too....

From the front of the dash to the fire wall....there is lots of space if I need to make the lenses of the horns longer.

No car horn is going to completely cover the midrange though...The mini's play down to about 1KHz. while most of the others will play down around 800Hz. Is 200Hz. that big a deal? Im not Pro Image Dynamics or anything, but the mini's do serve a useful purpose.

Brandon-there is a lot more to horn design than simply extending the lense, why not buy a full size horn in the first place??

IMO the lense on the Mini's is not large enuf to extend down to 1kHz. I think they rely on the dash extending their opening. A lot. That's neither here nor there though as it's not like I'm looking at buying a set [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]


As for room under the dash - my Caravan has room for maybe a 4" in the KP before it hits the wheelwell.... Tons of room if you put the motors in the middle but I wouldn't want to hear that.

Well, I thought about it....I might have room for the CD-2s massive motor structure under the dash but I THINK....don't quote me yet, but I think a full body horn is too wide at the end of the lense. I mean thick as in the space between the floor and the bottom of the lense.

I'd have to check, but I think the CD1/CD2's are over 2" thick which may get in my way (6 feet tall and size 11 boots).

Is there a horn, say USD maybe, that plays a bit lower or can I use a small(4") dome mid to help out the horn. How long would the body of the horn need to be to play all midrange frequncies, or would it be pointless?

Also, if I had to install a 4" mid, how is that going to affect my soundstage/tonality in conjuction with the horn?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm still pretty new to the horn subject.