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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Ever thought about modal analysis using FEM analysis?


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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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hmm.. from what I know structure utilizing equilaterial triangles should be stronger then one using a parabolic shape...
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Asking the original poster.

He was looking for a way to examine and study cone modes.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Haunz:
hmm.. from what I know structure utilizing equilaterial triangles should be stronger then one using a parabolic shape...
Ever seen a non-suspension style bridge built like a triangle and not an arc? Or a dam? Or how about any Roman structure that used arcs to support stone structures? They probably figured out pretty quick that a triangle shape doesn't hold as much weight as an arc does.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Dave_MacKinnon:
A triangle is a good shape for distributing force, but if you push inwards along one of the flat sides, it crumbles.
well saying it will crumble is a little misleading I think.. lol...

Im pretty certain that triangles and honeycombs are the strongest structural shapes... actually, (and Iam not big on geometery here) but I think a parobolic shape gains its strength because of its inherent triangular elements...

allthough I can't explain why parobolic shapes are often used instead of triangles... most implement triangular shapes within the larger parobola... Also I don't see NASA or the airforce building isogrids with parabolas [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Perhaps you are meaning a pyramidial shape and not necessarily a triangle.

A speaker cone has to endure air forces pushing and pulling on the backside of the cone as the cone moves in and out, especially in a sealed box. A flat-sided cone would distort in shape more easily than a curved cone? Why because again the arc-shape of the curved cone is inherently stronger. You still feel a triangle is stronger than an arc eh?
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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my thoughs are that different cone materials produce diffent tonal qualities so that they can say there different
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and suxz i don't know about now but when they did the old school flat cone like in the old pioneer tsx boxes
if my old memory serves me right it as a flat diaphram on a conventional convex cone
oh ya they also were doing square speakers back then too

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