personally i love that its a "basic install".

flash and over the top is easy. keeping it clean, practical, and achieving the results seen is much harder, with much more work involved.
and under the surface, its not a basic install at all:P



how's the new install coming along Julian?

 

so I just dont know if this has any level of validity... and what does basic mean? with his setup he can adjust nearly every perameter on each driver in a way that was not possible 10 years ago. granted he doesnt have motorized speakers coming out of his dash but neither does anyone else, I think your point has not been made. My point is it is every bit as complex as it needs to be, and I think in the name of SQ it is more or less where it needs to be, without sacrificing too much functionality

but your comments are condesending which is excusable if you actually know what you are talking about, and you have been carefull to keep your points heavy on opinion and short on facts which means ... you have not un-toolified yourself. I hope at some point you might actually say something with substance because I am trying to figure out how you came to this conclusion (is this in comparison to Alma Gates Bronco, or a PJ build, or RCs buick, or Mark Eldridge??)

 

I believe this will shed a little light...

Multiple Log-In Detection
"...fudgetablet seems to have multiple personalities using defro13 and fudgetablet sharing the same computer..."

 

Big surprise. btw, fudgetable how was it losing to a hybrid car last summer? think you'll beat Bill this year? Doubt it.

 

More Basic stuff :

Factory Speaker Upgrade - How-to - Car Audio and Electronics

 

That actually explains a lot, now i understand your comments on "basic build" as compared to the significant changes you made to your Neon and Mazda 5... having a point of reference is everything.

But to invent a forum name to essentially hide behind to go after a 'rival' so you could be anonymous is not real cool. Dave you have build skills I can only wish I had, but this was uncool.

Also had I been you, I would have selected a screen name that doesnt sound like fudge packer...

 

 

I can't see from the pictures.............. are any of the subwoofer terminals or amp terminals exposed ........... the metallic portion of the terminal touchable ?!?!? On those SE's I think it's good on the power side as it's a plug, but how about on the RCA end ???!? .......... just wondering !

For a "basic" daily driver install (apparently), attention to the details in the A-pillars and the kick panel pods is pretty impressive. The kick panel pods are *****-y to have cut holes into the car........ if I read right. But it's what must be done to getter done rite. Not a fan of the cosmetic finishes but who cares. That's all personal taste.


My understanding of the intent is to win based on the rules ....... and smart people go at it with a checklist to knock off each and every piece of criteria and no more...... with as little effort and money as possible to beat the criteria. Anything more is a waste outside of any creativity or bonus areas. Whomever it was taking pot shots at this install is a moron. You play to win based on the rules. World champion is world champion........... there's nothing more to say. Even if there's only two people at the show.

On the flip side "sound quality" judging is SO subjective and thus why I HATE these competitions and got out of it. There's more politics then anything back in the day. I saw so many people loose over the years that shouldn't have and people bought win based on brands. It was sad. Install judging was more grounded and tangible. What you see is what you get. And if I couldn't see it and you couldn't prove it, I gave you the fat lady for a score! The subjective part of sound was always a big black hole ........


Ex-IASCA judge

 

All terminals were covered including the exposed spkr terminals on the Fi Q.

Subjective is 100% correct. My SQ score from Daytona was 6 points off from the recent whitby show. (SAME JUDGE). Which is why I took 3rd instead of 1st in Amature. Install can be subjective too. I've seen judges mark down scores just because he can't see it or can't prove it. IASCA brought in the B.O.D rule(Benefit of Doubt) for this exact reason.

I would still be competing this season with my system shown in this thread but unfortunately my work schedule and family affairs come first.