PenThis

Need some third party perspective on whether to Bi-amp my MLK165 or not.

One installer is highly recommending it and another is suggesting don't have to as the amp (Audisson LX4.1) is more than satisfying the tweeter and midrange needs without using the second channel from the LX4.1.

What I am finding is there is not enough oomph through the mids and have had to increase the eq all through the mids. The second installer is suggesting the bottom end is missing from the mix and recommends getting a sub into the mix.

So if I may ask what will be net effect of bi-amping the MLK165's. What will I see.

Thank you

Jim

Dukk

Your biggest benefit is control. Now you will be able to adjust the gain of the tweeter channels relative to the midrange channels to get the sound balance you are after.

Are you going fully active or are you going to bi-amp throught the kit passive crossovers?

PenThis

I thought to remain with the kit's passive crossovers. The Lx4.1 is (I believe) 120 rms 'A' Channel and 140 rms from 'B' Channel. My ignorance suggests to me, that by going bi-amping I will see more mid range coming through just by the fact I am not halving Channel 'A's 120rms into the two speakers and by pushing the Channel 'B's 140 watts into the woofers will allow them to not to be over shadowed by the tweeters.

Is this correct thinking on my part?

Jim

jstoner22

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if you have the channels to bi-amp, do it.

you will love being able to use time alignment properly, and you will have more power for just the mids, and you will have great level control on the indicidual speakers.

I contemplated the same thing as you in the past and was very happy when I finally bi-amped my MLK-165.

they are awesome speakers!

Haunz

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Bi-amp!
Bi-amp!
Bi-amp!

"It's not quite magic, but it's close"

AAAAAAA

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So if you bi-amp using your stock xovers, you will be better able to attenuate the tweeter and perhaps make it sound more balanced and to your liking.

It's hard to know what "mid"frequencies you increased using what EQ.

As far as more bottom end, I wouldn't try and get satisfying amounts of bass from a comp set without being worried about destroying them. Better look towards a sub.

Not to mention playing speakers to low will usually increase distortion through out it's spectrum.

PenThis

I have the HU's EQ set to flat. The installers did set up a customized EQ to help the tuning along, but I have reset it back to flat (as best can be represented by the Pioneer AVIC Z2 HU).

I will be putting in a sub, but believe I should be getting better lower mid-range with these speakers. For instance I feel, high hats, snares and tom toms should be better represented by the MLK165's mid-range with sharper attack and sustain. Vocals should be as close to realism as they can be. Is this an unrealistic expectation? The system definitely needs to be helped along on the bottom end, and the installer for whom I have gained some respect for clearly demonstrated the need and benefits of such. Truck goes in this morning to address the sub requirements.

I should note the installer (Ferdinand from Custom Car Concepts in Vernon) is my mentor on this exercise and I look forward to seeing where we can go with this equipment to reach nirvana (if it exists ).



Jim

AAAAAAA

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The hard truth is, getting a car to sound good is tuff. Whats missleading is reading online reviews of component sets and getting these rediculous descriptions to how awesome a comp set is and then when a user buys that comp set and throws it into his doors it sounds nothing like what he read.

PenThis

AAAAAAA - Well said and I totally agree. My expectations for these comps are hopefully not to high. I am certainly giving it a fine go.

Magic Dust or not, this morning with Ferdinand and Brent from Custom Car Concepts, we starting over with reviewing the installation of the mids.

Review, were they baffled correctly, properly mounted, sealed, and what ever else needs to be applied to decide either dump them or fix and arrive at what the speaker should be accomplishing.

We should have a really good understanding by this evening on where this saga ends up.

Dukk

Vernon's a long way from White Rock..