Rookie SQ Advice
#31
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if you had 100 dollars to buy all the gear in your stereo system with, i would speand 15 dollars on amps, 15 dollars on source, 5 dollars on wiring, 5 dollars on subwoofers, 50 dollars on a 2 way component speaker set, and 10 dollars on a good eq/x-over, that is a good ratio that will get you great quality component speakers that will really deterine the overall sound quality of your system, now keep in mind that its all for not if the install isnt well thought out and installed
#32
The componant set is really the key, yes. however, my mix would be:
40 dollars on amps, 35 dollars on componants, 5 dollars on subwoofers, 10 dollars on processing, 5 dollars on wiring, 5 dollars on source.
There are a lot of great source units to be had at very good prices, like the "Denford" HU's.
40 dollars on amps, 35 dollars on componants, 5 dollars on subwoofers, 10 dollars on processing, 5 dollars on wiring, 5 dollars on source.
There are a lot of great source units to be had at very good prices, like the "Denford" HU's.
#33
I almost agree with Sass....I would tend to spend a bit more on the signal processing etc.
I'd spend more on a decent x-over and head unit than an eq.
It looks like Tom is sleeping so I'll say it, install is 90% of a great system, so an eq would pretty much be the last thing to spend money on.
Focus on install, good HU and x-over and a solid front end.....then as you advance through the classes worry more about eq's and such since you will at some point have to go through RTA.
I'd spend more on a decent x-over and head unit than an eq.
It looks like Tom is sleeping so I'll say it, install is 90% of a great system, so an eq would pretty much be the last thing to spend money on.
Focus on install, good HU and x-over and a solid front end.....then as you advance through the classes worry more about eq's and such since you will at some point have to go through RTA.
#36
Originally posted by Pitbully:
I may even go with the ppi line. I have been checking stats like sn ratio and rms 4 ohm to 1 ohm ratings.
I may even go with the ppi line. I have been checking stats like sn ratio and rms 4 ohm to 1 ohm ratings.
Here's my suggestion. Pick product that has a team on the circuit; Why ?
A few reasons:
1: If your crap breaksdown at a big show, you'll have guys thier that know the product and can help you.
2: If crap breaks down at a big show guys will lend you gear or out rigth exchange it in the lanes to get you back up and running. I have been part of the pulling from one car to make another one also get in the lanes.
3: If they have an SQ team with some serious competitors on it then you know the stuff is decent.
4: At major shows the team guys with years of experiance will help you with your car.
Now in all honesty I am on the Factory DLS team so you can say I'm slanted towards pushing that product, but I think if you look at the other users of the gear and how well they do then it speaks for it self.
Other suggestions for gear that support the competition sceen:
Xtant/StreetWires
JBL
Image Dynamics
Focal
Also I suggest you take your time and speak to people that ACTUALLY HAVE experiance in SQ competion. Just because some one post the living crap out of subject matter boards doesn't make them a expert in any field(no punchs here guys its a general statement about the internet)
This board has alot of guys with experiance, some have given you advice on this post.
Here's my system advice for you
1: Keep it simple. You have a P9 great choice, it makes your system simple for install, and gives you alot of processing power.
2: Go three way, you don't need any more. A pair of tweets, mids and a sub or two.
3: Three amps, thats all you need (highs, mid, sub). Buy the power you want without using black magic to produce 100 times more than its rated for. If you need a 1000 watt amp, buy a 1000 watts amd not a 100 watts amp and play games.
4: Design and build to maximize your system. Don't get caught up in the whos in what class and build with not enough power, or get caught in the "well ABC amps doesn't make anything under 500 watts so I'll go high power class" Build your system to make sure that you can squeeze every last once out of it. Don't buy what you don't need. 1000 watts sounds cool, but when 50 watts with give you the same results why blow money you don't need to.
5: If your choosing a shop find one that has atleast a car on the circuit, Don't pay for a shops learning curve to get you into the lanes. First question to ask any shop that your planning on having the install done by is to ask one simple question.
"Do you have an IASCA, or USAC, or MECA, or SLAP rule book here in the shop"
If they don't, or look at you funny, or give you some silly reason for not needing one.....leave because they can't build to the rules.
Added bonus's for shops:
1: Certified judges that work at the shop
2: Employees that compete in the organization your looking to compete in.
3: Shops that can pull in people that are the above to help in design, install, tuning ect ect
good luck [img]graemlins/beer.gif[/img]
[ January 03, 2005, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: Impala Builder ]
#37
Well the 1 ohm load was for the sub i was going to go 4 ohm bridged for the 2 way component set.
I am keeping within the 600 watt class. I dont want to compete with the big boys
[ January 03, 2005, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Pitbully ]
I am keeping within the 600 watt class. I dont want to compete with the big boys
[ January 03, 2005, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Pitbully ]
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^ Competition is just as tough in the "lower class"
Back when IASCA had more competitors and more classes the toughest class traditionally was 251-500 watts, right in the middle class wise [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
Really, there is nothing a person is going to achieve with more than 600 watts that they cannot with less than 600watts.
Back when IASCA had more competitors and more classes the toughest class traditionally was 251-500 watts, right in the middle class wise [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
Really, there is nothing a person is going to achieve with more than 600 watts that they cannot with less than 600watts.
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Originally posted by Dukk:
Really, there is nothing a person is going to achieve with more than 600 watts that they cannot with less than 600watts.
Really, there is nothing a person is going to achieve with more than 600 watts that they cannot with less than 600watts.