I am looking for a new deck for a new setup. I am intertested in better sound. What are the most inportant characteristics to look for... good DA converters, high signal to noise, low impedance high voltage outputs. I know those 3 are important what else should i be looking for ?

Here are a few top runners...

1/Clarion DRZ-9255.......Dual 24bit BurrBrown DAC
2/Nakamichi CD-700...... Dual 24bit BurrBrown DAC
3/Alpine F-1 7990/9990...Dual 24bit BurrBrown DAC
4/Denon Z-1..............Dual 24bit BurrBrown Dac
5/Clarion DRX-9255.......Dual 20bit BurrBrown DAC
6/Alpine 7909............Dual 18bit BurrBrown DAC
7/Apogee DA1000E-20 DAC..Dual 20bit BurrBrown DAC

I have a Denon DTC-R1 in great condition. $1050 If your interested: nelsondog@telus.net

You may find an RF 8250 on ebay or the forums. It is an excellent sounding deck and should not be that expensive.

what do you guys think of the eclipse cd8445

It is a great cd player, I have trouble keeping it in stock actually. Great value for the $ as well.

Anyone know what the DA's are in the Alpine CDA 9813/9815?

Second on that Denon-ford 8250i. That was a great piece for a great price. No toys...... just a great transport.

okay, between these 3 decks which one would you say is best

CLARION DXZ855 MP http://www.clarion.com/usa/products/.../DXZ855MP.html

PIONEER DEH-8600MP http://pioneerelectronics.ca/pna/pro...544643,00.html

ECLIPSE CD8445
http://www.eclipse-web.com/cd/cd8445.html

Eclipse, 8 volt 55 ohm non - clipping preouts. 3 yr. warranty and free replacement in the first year if stolen. A simple clean easy to use great sounding cd player.