TDCRacing

I have an interesting issue. I have a right hand drive 90 MR2 that I'm trying to set up for SQ. The issue relates to the staging. The left stage sounds good nice width in that direction, but then you come across the car to the drivers seat and the right stage stops prematurely. Its like 3/4 of a stage. It abruptly ends at the door. Are there any tricks to make it seem like there is more width? Or am I just nto use to being on the other side of the car? I was going to start messing with tweeter phasing. See if that did anything.

MTT

iTrader: (17)

Definitely play with the phasing, although the higher they are crossed, the less you'll notice the difference.

if you have the means, try the tweeters in different areas of the dash, different heights as well. Also try different axis.

BTW I'm having the same issue and playing with different locations as well.

zzzzzzz

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so do you have the red or the black mr2 up there ?

Westec

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Are you using time alignment?

TDCRacing

Tweets are currently on the sail panel. I had pulled the sail panel off and aimed it directly down the window and even at the window. Then i tried moving it towards me at the same height but that seemed to kill some of the depth. If i remember right i have them crossed at 1.6k maybe lower now.

I am using time alignment which I have to muck with a bit yet. My center is just a bit right still.

And its a black Mr2 but i know of alot more than just 2 up here.

It is an active tri-mode set up. I can change individual time alignment, crossovers, and amplitude.

Westec

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if you use time alignment, it will always have the cut off premature...that is why time alignment get bad marks with good judges. if you are going to use the tweeters in the sail panels, do not use time alignment on the tweeters. you do not need it because the tweeters not on axxis to you.

sirsleepsalot

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I'm curious too about this. I've noticed a huge drop in stage width as well with time alignement. But, is there a way to keep everything centered and in place without using it ? Cuz, when I turn it off, my stage goes all the way to the left except for a few things on the far right. And, sounds also loose lots of focus.

I've tried different ways of setting up my time alignement, and so far, one of the compromises that kind of works is setting up the T/A as if I was using passive x-overs. Left all have one setting and right, all another... But, that still sacrifices a bit of width.

TDCRacing

well it sounds like thats a sacrifice I'm going to have to take. Without time alignemnt, the center sounds like its coming from behind you. Absolutely no focus whatsoever. I do have the tweeters turned backward alot more an axis with the listener too.

fozzz

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Can you give out more detail on your system, speaker locations, proccssing ......... All the good stuff. Pics would be nice too.

What frequencies are dropping, where do they drop and haw far out does each go?

Fittersman

sorry to butt in here, but do you have to physically move speakers for better staging or are there better ways? So far the only option ive found to help with staging is fade/balance... what others are there?