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Old 11-20-2008, 03:36 PM
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would the 2000w 15' type r sub deliver more kick than the 3000w 10' type x?

Just wondering. I'm gonna look into trying to get a 12' type x or 15' but so far the type r and x are my only options. Which would deliver more kick? I'm assuming the type x if that helps at all
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"kick" is mid-bass, not sub-bass.
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Your looking at peak ratings , look at the RMS . I wish it was that easy .
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:48 PM
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It would be hard for a 10 to compete with a very capable 15, which the type r is. Both can use similar power, the 15 though can move a hell of a lot more air than the 10. Assuming they're installed in correct enclosures to produce max output...the 15 will eat the 10! All other things being equal...a 15 moves about 2.5 times the air of a 10.
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Originally Posted by veeman
It would be hard for a 10 to compete with a very capable 15, which the type r is. Both can use similar power, the 15 though can move a hell of a lot more air than the 10. Assuming they're installed in correct enclosures to produce max output...the 15 will eat the 10! All other things being equal...a 15 moves about 2.5 times the air of a 10.
huh okay, I think i'll try and get my hands on some 15' type x's ummm what's mid bass and sub bass? Also what's 20+20 and 40+40?? Thanks
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:06 AM
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I suggest you listen to each. Then you decide. I've never heard a Type X in any configuration. I've heard a 12" Type R in a sealed box, running at 1 ohm on a buddies Memphis amp (currently in my car) which puts out 1120W with that load. I can't remember how it sounded. I do, however, remember his lights dimming excessively.

Link to Alpine USA. You'll see that Alpine doesn't make a 15" Type X, at least not currently.

The 20+20 and 40+40 means that they are Dual Voice Coil speakers, 2 ohm and 4 ohm respectively. 2ohm + 2ohm can be wired to give an amp either a 1 or 4 ohm load. A 4ohm + 4ohm can be wired to give an amp either a 2 or 8 amp load. That up-side-down horse shoe symbol means "ohms". Ohms is a measure of resistance. Look it up.

Instead of getting one 12" Type X that'll cost you nearly $500, how about 2 10" Type S that'll cost around $300. And the amp you'd purchase to supply power to them wouldn't have to be as costly either.

I'm going to read your other posts, then I'll come back here...
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TragicMagic
I suggest you listen to each. Then you decide. I've never heard a Type X in any configuration. I've heard a 12" Type R in a sealed box, running at 1 ohm on a buddies Memphis amp (currently in my car) which puts out 1120W with that load. I can't remember how it sounded. I do, however, remember his lights dimming excessively.

Link to Alpine USA. You'll see that Alpine doesn't make a 15" Type X, at least not currently.

The 20+20 and 40+40 means that they are Dual Voice Coil speakers, 2 ohm and 4 ohm respectively. 2ohm + 2ohm can be wired to give an amp either a 1 or 4 ohm load. A 4ohm + 4ohm can be wired to give an amp either a 2 or 8 amp load. That up-side-down horse shoe symbol means "ohms". Ohms is a measure of resistance. Look it up.

Instead of getting one 12" Type X that'll cost you nearly $500, how about 2 10" Type S that'll cost around $300. And the amp you'd purchase to supply power to them wouldn't have to be as costly either.

I'm going to read your other posts, then I'll come back here...
okay well thanks. i'm assuming the 1 ohm load would be best? And ya i'll take that into account thanks
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1 ohm isn't best, better, good, bad, or worst. 1 ohm just is. Its a state of being for a DVC 2 ohm sub when the voice coils are wired in parallel.

What it means, however, is that you need an amplifier that is capable of operating on a 1 ohm resistance (load). Cause that what ohm means, resistance. Some amps will, and can operate on a 1 ohm load. But they are generally beefier, bigger, more expensive amplifiers. But there're downsides to 1 ohm operation. The most important of which is a degradation in sound quality. If I had a choice between an amp that can output 1000W at 1 ohm, or an amp that can output 600W at 4 ohm, I'd pick the 600W amp. Its better for SQ, and the amp might 'live' longer.
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12" type X over 15" type R anyday.

15" takes wayyyy too much space for it to sound good with the right enclosure.
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