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Old 03-24-2007, 05:45 PM
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I suggest you go back, be diplomatic and explain your expectations as a PAYING CUSTOMER...If they have an issue with that, take your business elsewhere...
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:15 PM
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Thanks for the support guys really. I will head in there monday and keep my cool.

And zzzzzzzzz 0g is way beyond my needs. I think 4 might be as well. But for the price of it... im considering it.
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:44 PM
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what is the fuse size in your amp

you use this to determine proper wire size

i didn't see a single person ask this before passing judgement
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:44 PM
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i run my wire not on what i need now but on what i know what i mite do

I NEED MORE POWER
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:10 PM
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check the actual wire thicknesses and not the insulator thickness. i have heard that some companies will rate their cable based on the insulator diameter not the conductor so people will think they are getting better wire. if this is the case maybe both have the same size conductor but different insulation and ratings. I forget where i read that and i tried to find it but i could'nt, maybe it was a load of bull? i dont know. anyways have a look at the actual conductor thicknesses. eitherway it sounds like a pretty crappy shop to use two different types of wire.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by robmar
what is the fuse size in your amp

you use this to determine proper wire size

i didn't see a single person ask this before passing judgement
Its 30A
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by zzzzzzz
i run my wire not on what i need now but on what i know what i mite do

I NEED MORE POWER
Haha i agree with you... but for this application it wont be needed hehe. 0g that is.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by adammiller03
check the actual wire thicknesses and not the insulator thickness. i have heard that some companies will rate their cable based on the insulator diameter not the conductor so people will think they are getting better wire. if this is the case maybe both have the same size conductor but different insulation and ratings. I forget where i read that and i tried to find it but i could'nt, maybe it was a load of bull? i dont know. anyways have a look at the actual conductor thicknesses. eitherway it sounds like a pretty crappy shop to use two different types of wire.

I would really hope thats not the case. I can see lawsuits for saying a wire is a certain gauge based on the casing. Im pretty sure the standard is that the guage is the wire diameter itself. But im not an expert nor electrician.

Thanks again for the replies all... I need to know this stuff before i go in there and make an *** of myself. Knowing what im talking about will help a lot. As to why this install is wrong, and this is why.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:53 AM
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so the 12 guage will be fine

for the other posters that aren't educated about wire size please visit this site
http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm
theres a loss calculator at the bottom
12 guage had a 40 amp max rating
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The resistance differance between a foot of 8 guage and a foot of 12 guage is next to nothing. With a 30 amp fuse on there the fuse will provide more resistance to worry about than the wire does and the fuse will limit everything in the system not the wire. If you want more power you need a bigger amp, there is nothing wrong with what they did and you will notice no differance if you ask them to change it other than you will waste your time and theirs.
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