Do these baffles work and has anyone tried them?
10-22-2009, 10:33 PM
#11
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i use these ones in my car they are a hard plastic but i did find it improve my mid bass and i used them in my rear speakers as well because the bass from my subs kept pushing my rear speakers up and causing them to blow so that is also another use Metra 81-4300 (met-814300) Speaker Baffles & Grilles Car Speaker Installation & Accessories Car Audio/Video Installation & Accessories Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix
10-23-2009, 06:28 AM
#12
i use these ones in my car they are a hard plastic but i did find it improve my mid bass and i used them in my rear speakers as well because the bass from my subs kept pushing my rear speakers up and causing them to blow so that is also another use Metra 81-4300 (met-814300) Speaker Baffles & Grilles Car Speaker Installation & Accessories Car Audio/Video Installation & Accessories Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix
Looks pretty thin for "hard" plastic. A good mid-driver with some power would have that resonating real quick. They make great molds, I'd add some fiberglass to them though. 
IMO - The easiest way really is buying the foam ones & resin them.
10-23-2009, 05:28 PM
#15
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Canadian auto sound located at 2799 eglinton ave east www.canadainautosound.com i know they have 1 pair their left n i know they can get more... that was the main reason i got them because of moisture
10-23-2009, 05:33 PM
#16
i actually just ordered two sets out of curiosty today. they are 9.99, free shipping on crutchfield canada. ....i don't know how much they are elsewhere,...but for 9.99 who cares:P
they are made by XTC if you search for them.
they are made by XTC if you search for them.
Last edited by jstoner22; 10-23-2009 at 05:36 PM.
10-27-2009, 01:25 PM
#17
well just got in from trying out those baffles. I was hoping for the best, expecting the worst.
I got what i expected, lol.
The only function I can see for these foam baffles is weather protection.
I installed these on one of my rear Focals and left the other IB. Any form of bass/midbass was instantly diminished by a large extent on the baffled speaker. Even if you have a dedicated midbass driver, the upper end of the speaker was greatly altered as well....much brighter and unnatural sounding.
So I went about cutting out the sides bit by bit, seeing the effect on sound, and to acheive any kind of decent sound, you will need to basically remove the entire base, rendering the baffle pointless.
For those without sound dampening, the mounting portion can definitely be used to cut down on vibrations, etc. other than that they just aren't worth it. Weather protecting your nice speakers is foolish if you are just going to make your nice speakers sound crappy. may as well just put crappy speakers in and save the trouble.
if any one still believes otherwise and wants them, $10 for four! the one is cut in a couple of places. lol, i doubt anyone will want them after reading what i think of them though:P
....as far as back pressure from the sub, i have one 10" ID Max, and i listen with one of my rear seats down. so I don't have a major issue here. others may find this a benifit with larger subs.
I got what i expected, lol.
The only function I can see for these foam baffles is weather protection.
I installed these on one of my rear Focals and left the other IB. Any form of bass/midbass was instantly diminished by a large extent on the baffled speaker. Even if you have a dedicated midbass driver, the upper end of the speaker was greatly altered as well....much brighter and unnatural sounding.
So I went about cutting out the sides bit by bit, seeing the effect on sound, and to acheive any kind of decent sound, you will need to basically remove the entire base, rendering the baffle pointless.
For those without sound dampening, the mounting portion can definitely be used to cut down on vibrations, etc. other than that they just aren't worth it. Weather protecting your nice speakers is foolish if you are just going to make your nice speakers sound crappy. may as well just put crappy speakers in and save the trouble.
if any one still believes otherwise and wants them, $10 for four! the one is cut in a couple of places. lol, i doubt anyone will want them after reading what i think of them though:P
....as far as back pressure from the sub, i have one 10" ID Max, and i listen with one of my rear seats down. so I don't have a major issue here. others may find this a benifit with larger subs.
Last edited by jstoner22; 10-27-2009 at 01:27 PM.
10-27-2009, 04:27 PM
#19
you think that will fix it eh?
from using them, i got the impression that the "enclosure" was simply to small.
6.5" are desigend for IB and sound best that way.
whatever the case, im leaving it now, i have no issue with the speakers. i bought them purely out of curiosity
how will making it a solid enclosure change the effects that i've seen?
from using them, i got the impression that the "enclosure" was simply to small.
6.5" are desigend for IB and sound best that way.
whatever the case, im leaving it now, i have no issue with the speakers. i bought them purely out of curiosity
how will making it a solid enclosure change the effects that i've seen?
10-27-2009, 06:53 PM
#20
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More rigid/ less rigid, more resonant/ less resonant will have an affect (I am not saying more better or less gooder just different). The 'treatment' of the speakers back-wave is significant to the speaker cones behavior thus significant to the front wave (which is the wave we hear).
The smaller air space this provides for the back wave will alter the sound (as noted) you can un-alter it by venting (poking holes like you were doing but i am guessing a 1 or 3 inch hole may be needed to get rid of the upper mid response hump). After that does it have a net advantage or disadvantage sonically.
Other items to consider using is :
1- dynamat on the rear chamber will dampen resonances and lower the resonant frequency
2- Polyfill
3- Resin will stiffen the enclosure and raise the resonant freq (and make the entire rear baffle more reflective)
The smaller air space this provides for the back wave will alter the sound (as noted) you can un-alter it by venting (poking holes like you were doing but i am guessing a 1 or 3 inch hole may be needed to get rid of the upper mid response hump). After that does it have a net advantage or disadvantage sonically.
Other items to consider using is :
1- dynamat on the rear chamber will dampen resonances and lower the resonant frequency
2- Polyfill
3- Resin will stiffen the enclosure and raise the resonant freq (and make the entire rear baffle more reflective)
